Thread: Fastest Stock American Cars

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Currently, Id say Ford GT.

Thats about 500hp
1/4m 11.5
0-60 3.3

Other than american, I'd say Carrera GT and Saleen S7...
anything else is just a toy...

The 53 Studebaker held the record at Bonneville for a long time as the fastest stock bodied car. If someone broke that record recently I missed it. I'm sure it wasn't with the stock engine though so I guess it doesn't count in this thread.

The original question was FASTEST...but I se3e everyone comparing 1/4 mile & 0-60 times. that would be comparing quickest. there is a differance

"On September 22, 1993 a 1963 Studebaker Avanti driven by Ron Hall set a new world speed record with a two-way average of 195.640 mph at the Bonneville Salt Flats. The car was powered by a 304 cid/630 hp Paxton blown Studebaker V8 built by Jet City Studebaker of Tacoma, Washington. Hall's return run average of 200.462 mph also made his the first Studebaker powered car to exceed the 200 mph mark. "

Not bad for a car built in 1963.

and I agree with stepside454. There is a big difference between
QUICKEST and FASTEST.

Have a good one,
Dan

Originally posted by stepside454
The original question was FASTEST...but I se3e everyone comparing 1/4 mile & 0-60 times. that would be comparing quickest. there is a differance

U R Right, there is a difference, but the original poster did write "Post the times" so maybe he meant quickest.

In either case I will stand by my original nominations:

" I gotta go with the new Z06 7 liter Corvette, the latest Viper, and the Ford GT. All of them are listing 500 rear wheel HP, and with the suspensions and chassis to control it."

Pat

427 Cobra CSX, Ford GT, and Saleen S7 have to be the fastest American cars ever. (Would the Vector of the early 80's count?)

454 chevelle 450 hp stock, thats not bad

If you rank the cars by 0 - 60, 1/4 mile , and top speed take an average as to where each car ranks then you will see what the fastest car is . The 427 Cobra, Ford GT, Viper, and Saleen S7 are all leaders in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times (depanding which magazine you read).The deciding factor will be top speed which will leave the Cobra and Viper out because their top speed is less than 200mph . The ford GT and S7 have both been recorded as breaking 200mph. I dont have any #'s on the Vector but I remember the top speed being over 200mph. If that counts as a production car see what the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are.

the 2006 cobra is going to have 465 horse and i think maybe a twin screw blower instead of a roots type, but dont hold me to it, but never the less, 465 aint a bad number.

"On September 22, 1993 a 1963 Studebaker Avanti driven by Ron Hall set a new world speed record with a two-way average of 195.640 mph at the Bonneville Salt Flats. The car was powered by a 304 cid/630 hp Paxton blown Studebaker V8 built by Jet City Studebaker of Tacoma, Washington. Hall's return run average of 200.462 mph also made his the first Studebaker powered car to exceed the 200 mph mark. "

HP really don't have anything to do with how fast you go. you can gear the car to go as fast as you want at what ever rpm you want. how quick you get there with the same gear is another story. if you are doing a comparison test you would have to keep it stock(out of the show room) or put the same gear in all of them. you can make anything go 200 mph with the right gear and a long enough test track and the wheels don't run off. at the Bonneville Salt Flats there would have to be a time limit or a set distance to go by, when you try for the world record or it wouldnt mean anything. can someone explane the rules to me.

Mike,

I agree the gearing has some to do with it, but certainly not all. In a high geared car it takes a bunch of power to push it up there. You could take a car that would freely rev to 6000 rpm with say 4.10 gears that might not be able to reach 5000 with 3.00s and end up actually slower for top speed. Other things that have to be considered are drag coefficient and suspension.

I keep seeing Saleen in these posts, are they true production cars?

Pat

Originally posted by Stu Cool
Mike,

I agree the gearing has some to do with it, but certainly not all. In a high geared car it takes a bunch of power to push it up there. You could take a car that would freely rev to 6000 rpm with say 4.10 gears that might not be able to reach 5000 with 3.00s and end up actually slower for top speed. Other things that have to be considered are drag coefficient and suspension.

I keep seeing Saleen in these posts, are they true production cars?

Pat

Stu, The Saleen S7 is a real production car . I am not referring to the Saleen Mustangs (If that is what you meant) I agree with your explanation of gearing , hp and aerodynamics.
Then we also have to consider what gears are in these cars when they leave the showroom.
I think you have to factor in quickness to determine the fastest car unless the original post was strictly top speed.

Originally posted by Stu Cool
Mike,

I agree the gearing has some to do with it, but certainly not all. In a high geared car it takes a bunch of power to push it up there. You could take a car that would freely rev to 6000 rpm with say 4.10 gears that might not be able to reach 5000 with 3.00s and end up actually slower for top speed. Other things that have to be considered are drag coefficient and suspension.

I keep seeing Saleen in these posts, are they true production cars?

Pat

Ii agree with what you are saying stu, and was kind of thinkng about the 4 to 5 dif. cars that its look its came down to. i guess the fastest car means mph out of the show room, and i have no idea what that is, but dont look like it would to hard to find out. looks like the Saleen co. take other cars like the mustang and put body kits and add hp to them and you have a saleen model. to me thats not a production car. the Saleen S7 they produce would be questionable. ive all ways thought of the European cars being the fastest on top end and the american cars faster in the 1/4 mile.

Originally posted by lt1s10
Ii agree with what you are saying stu, and was kind of thinkng about the 4 to 5 dif. cars that its look its came down to. i guess the fastest car means mph out of the show room, and i have no idea what that is, but dont look like it would to hard to find out. looks like the Saleen co. take other cars like the mustang and put body kits and add hp to them and you have a saleen model. to me thats not a production car. the Saleen S7 they produce would be questionable. ive all ways thought of the European cars being the fastest on top end and the american cars faster in the 1/4 mile.

I'd agree with you that the Euro cars have the advantage at the top end I.E. Porsche GT3's, Ferrari, etc. They might even have us in 1/4 times also but I dont know off the top of my head. But 5000lb Benzes pushing 200 is damned inmpressive. But the fastest American car has got to be between the Viper, Vette, and the GT. A cobra mustang might slip in there next year when they come out and who know's what mother mopar's new Charger is going to be like (please make it god awful fast, Amen). I do have to say though, god bless the Horsepower Wars part II.

- Cudaman -

Horsepower wars part II. I like that. Anyway, I think this is how this is going to have to work out. There will be 2 divisions. Fastest 1/4 mile time(Viper, mustang, camaro, vette, ect) and highest top speed(vette, viper, ferrari, McLaren, GT40). That should help out a bit.