Good to see you here Raymond. Looks like you've already been pretty active trying to give some help on the board. Much appreciated.

To the best of my recollection there are three folks on this board who have Gibbon bodies. Looks like you've already read Henry's comments. You'll be glad to hear that Dan J. is happy with his '33 sedan body. And then there's me. My sentiments are closer to Henry's. To be fair, I bought my body about 13 years ago when Dwight still ran the company in NE, and Kyle was doing the assembly.

I would disagree with you just slightly about problems being a result of the customer's expectations. The selling business has a lot to do with setting those expectations, and should take criticism when the expectations set are not met. Maybe you meant that, but it wasn't clear. In my case I expected to do some body work to smooth out some distortions, but the fitment of the deck lid was about as bad as anything I've ever seen in a glass body. Well, no, the worst I ever saw was some junk from AI, but they were in a different part of the market at that time.

Since getting my body I've been involved with two Minotti '34 3 windows. Combined the two of them needed less than a cup of filler to get smooth. The one Poli-form '34 I helped a buddy with was only slightly worse. My own experience with Wescott bodies is by and large nearly as favorable. Not saying you're not correct, I'm sure all those companies have put out a blivet or two, (another buddy did a Downs that was horrible and was what pushed me towards Gibbon) but buyers look for patterns of disappointment. If you ask ten people and one says something bad, that's not too bad. If 6 say something bad, the company has a problem delivering. Unfortunately Gibbon has been more toward the 6 than the one in my experience.

Your words of encouragement are a good thing. If there have been some positive changes in the past year to improve quality I tip my hat to the company. Earning back a good reputation is an uphill battle, I wish you all the best.

Noticed that you posted some different company names associated with Kyle in some other posts. Did he leave Gibbon, or is he running some subsidiaries too?