oh well if frickin muncies and t-10's werent ridiculously priced id have a stick car. a guy is trying to persaude me right now hes offering me up a pretty nice 01 z/28 camaro with the ls1 6 speed . has a bigger cam, intake/throttlebody and headers and ran 11.90's thru the mufflers and cats no juice pretty tempting!!!! stock long block!