Tools?

Not sure if I posted something like this yet or not but am pretty sure I haven't. I was wondering what your guys' oppinions on Craftsman tools are? I am only 16 years old with no money and no job but wan't some new tools and stop having to use my pops tools and I was looking at Craftsman (which we have at the moment) or Snap On and I really like the comfort that Snap On has but not really in my price range at all. What do you guy's think about the quality of Craftsman tools because I haven't used a ton of their tools for automotive (only Snap On) and the Craftsman tools I have at the moment are only things such as sockets, screw drivers, combination wrenches, etc so I don't know if all around of the tools are good.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and also if you know of any sets that are good quality but not the most pricey then let me know as well. I have a craftsman cataloge but it doesn't have everything in it and right now I am trying to find something with a good and big tool box (even if it's bigger than what I need for starting out). I do not wan't to go with a cheap tool box and tools because I don't have the money to buy cheap stuff then later get better tools.
Thanks for any help.

Most all my tools are Craftsman.....there are better ones out there, but for the price they are great and have good guarantee......go with the Sears stuff

Yeah and I like how they have the garantee. Some of the Craftsman is more comfortable feeling to me than the Snap On but all depends. I do not like those new wrenches like the combination ones where it has a wratcheting type of thing where you do not have to take it off the bolt and keep turning (hard to explain), they are crappy.

Snap on makes the best tools, but they charge accordingly. If you use the tool all day every day, then perhaps the extra cost is worth something.

Most of my tools are craftsman. they have some 'higher level' tools these days that are approaching Snap On for comfort. The guarantee is the same for both - if it breaks they will replace it. However - as a non-working pro I see no snap on guy every week. So when snap on (or mac, matco, cornwell, etc) tool breaks, I have a hell of a time getting it replaced. Even as a pro, the Snap On man only came by one a week, and often didn';t have the tool on his truck - so you'd wait 2 to 3 weeks to get it replaced.

Sears is open every day, long hours. No probs getting one replaced!

If you have to wait 3 weeks to get a 9/16 socket or a ratchet, then you end up at sears buying one anyway!:LOL:

I have Craftsman tools that are 30 years old. Through my own abuse of it, I broke a socket the other day. I took it to the local Sears store at 7 in the evening, the "tool man" there looked at it and handed me a replacement, no questions asked. That's hard to beat. Like Chris said, you just can't beat the convenience and the quality is at least a 7 on a 10 scale. I am speaking if Craftsman hand tools now, some of their power Tools are pretty cheaply made. Don't ovelook Stanley tools either. Their quality and gaurantee is also good for the home mechanic.

For some of the specialty tools that you only need once every couple years, be sure to check at AutoZone. They have tools like ball joint seperators and presses and wheel pullers that they loan out for free to customers. They run your credit card slip when you take them and tear it up when you bring them back in working order. Beats the heck out of hourly charges at the local rental place. They are a great resource.

Pat

Pat

Alright thanks guy's. The issue I was thinking about with the Snap On is the truck taking so long to bring me a replacement and that's one reason I do not like Snap On. I am thinking about going to Wyotech next year in West Sacramento and they say that there is a store there where they give students 50% off on tools but even with 50% off their tools are still expensive and I most likely won't have the money then, I will be poor and trying to pay off for the school.

You only buy tools once (hopefully!). As Stu Cool said, he has 30 year old tools - you will use these tools for the rest of your life - 50 or more years. If it is your profession, you will use them A LOT.

I spent about 15 years wrenching for a living, cars and motorcycles. I have a variety of brands of tools and some stuff you buy Snap On because no one else makes it or makes the quality of that particualr tool.

I'd go to sears and buy the biggest tool set they sell - you won't need taps and dies or hacksaws very often, but metric and sae sockets, ratchets, torx, etc.

Some of what you buy later will depend on what your wrenching style is...i use air tools alot, so all my 6pt sockets are the black impact ones (some generic that are fantastic and some mac). Some guys never or rarely use air tools. I never had a 3/8 inpact or a 1//4 air ratchet - I used 1/2 air ratchet and 1/2 inch gun. I now have a 3/8 butterlfy (used craftsman) and love it.

Buy snap on hammers. Their screwdrivers are impressive too ( i have only 2, but a small straight blade of mine was used to try and steal my car - the screwdrive survived - the hardened ignition did not!).

Buy used tool boxes. You need a big one, one you can move without a fork truck!!!! Snap on are again the best (have seen them take a direct hit from a wrecker - the concrete wall behind the box moved 6", the box was fine!). A box will not make you money, but being able to access and inventory your tools quickly WILL make you money.

chris

Thank's for the info. I do not need a tool box that needs to be moved by a fork lift though, lol. I was looking at the black Craftsman boxes with the ball bearing drawers and they seem pretty nice. Right now I have a Husky tool box and I don't have a problem with it but like I said, it's not mine, it's my pops but I use all his tool way more than he does, he just used the tools needed for construction since he is a contractor.

My 'main' box is a 3 piece unit - the bottom and mid boxes are OLD snap on, a bonus/christmas gift from my first employer. My top box ia a 86 or vintage snap on, one of the first with ball bearing drawers. THEN it was about $700, but I got it used after it fell form a truck when a tech was moving from job to job - it was full of tools and literally rolled down teh street at 30 mph! A few scratches, but it works just fine. $200 i paid. So i got off cheap. I also got tired moving this beastly arrangement, so my last job was as a motocycle tech and i got a cheap craftman set (2 boxes for $169). You can definitely tell the difference in quality - lighter metal, drawers harder to move (loaded and empty).

Last job was at a Nissan dealer. The techs there were slowly moving to the BIG long boxes (6' long) with the suspension on the tires, etc. These boxes cost 5 or 6 grand and more! An empty box weighs 650 pounds! Ugh! Load that with tools and even if you have a fork truck you'll have to make two trips in a 1/2 to truck!:whacked:

Haha that's damn big man. Yeah I just need something a bit bigger than I need. Right now I got the 2 piece stacked Husky one that is find, it's not the best but it isn't like others where the drawers are hard to open. Right now I am just talking about the stuff that I would like to have, basically talking out my ass like most teens and people with no money wishing they had stuff.... people can wish can't they? lol But yeah I found a few set's from Craftsman that are about 1,200 that come with ton's of stuff. I also saw the Craftsman Professional tools that are really nice but ton's of money as well but well worth the extra buck. I am going to see what I can do about a tool box because I am thinking about going on Ebay and looking for a cheap priced but good box. Would it be alright to go on ebay and buy a tool box because I know some stuff you shouldn't buy on ebay and just making sure?

Concept: One good adjustable wrench is worth a lot!

I am not a "pro" but I did use tools in my lab work before retirement and I had to get small sets of metric wrenches for VW work and internals of a Pinto 2000. I have had more bad adventures on the road with MGs than you want to hear, so I always carry 12" and a 6" Craftsman ADJUSTABLE wrenches with pliers, two screwdrivers and a battery terminal cleaner in a "emergency bag" in the trunk. I like the Craftsman since I have never broken one except for a 3/8" ratchet set (when I put a 6' pipe on the handle to tighten the single flywheel bolt on a VW!) and It was promptly replaced. I bought a new Craftsman 3/8" drive torque wrench for assembly of my roadster which is totally from scratch, so as a "poor boy" myself I would think you could do a lot with just an open end set of Craftsman SAE and metric wrenches. Throw in a set of box wrenches (Craftsman) and I think you could do a lot with about 10 SAE, 10 metric open ends, a 3/8 ratchet and both SAE and metric sockets along with one Craftsman torque wrench. Then just add tools as you need them and probably Sears has what you need. I speak from the "lower economic range" and a "make it work" philosophy. In an economic pinch you should realize that one or two adjustable wrenches can take the place of a lot of open end wrenches and adjustables work on metric as well as SAE! Just for the sake of trivia, note that the only interchangeable box/open end wrench between SAE and metric is that a 13 mm metric wrench will work on 1/2" SAE in a pinch ( 1 inch =25.4 mm) but that is not much use usually while a large adjustable will work on a lot of fasteners AND can be used as a hammer (sideways) to "tap" things. I guess I am telling you bad habits, but the next time you wander into a junk yard it will help to have a single 12" adjustable Craftsman in your back pocket. You can do a lot with a single adjustable wrench. Maybe you can learn what NOT to do from my semi-humorous remarks.

Best Wishes,
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

Haha yeah those are all the things I was taught NOT to do, lol but I still do it anyways. Yeah well I can't stand adjustable (cresent wrenches), I was taught in auto tech class that an adjustable is the last tool a tech will grab or the worst tool a tech will wan't. I can;t stand them.

OK, in my experiance, almost anything with a lifetime Warentee is in good shape. Then again, im still young. However, i have had to just replace a Craftesman 3/8, 1/2 rachet and a snapon 3/8. However, i have a SK 3/8 that will not break. I Blew Up a Craftsman 3/8 Trying to remove my O2 sensor on the Cutlass. My SK got it right out, no problems. Now Craftsman and Snap on may be easier to replace, but when you dont have to replace them, why worry?

"Just for the sake of trivia, note that the only interchangeable box/open end wrench between SAE and metric is that a 13 mm metric wrench will work on 1/2" SAE in a pinch ( 1 inch =25.4 mm) "

19mm = 3/4" as well.

If you are stranded, anything is better than nothing.
If you have no money or all the time in teh world, then open end wrenches are fine.

If you are making your living at wrenching, then the right tool will save you time (make you money) and in many instances save your knuckles. You may skin you knuckles when you work 6 hours on a saturday on your rod, but when you work 40 or more you can't afford to cut yourself up 6 or 7 times a week!

Broken tools don't work. Tools that don't work don't make you money. To spend $50 to $100 a WEEK on tools is about NORMAL for a working mechanic. Tax deductible too!

Hell, I spend at least $500 a year as it now, and it is just a hobby. Recently bought a 20 ton press, air nibblers, halogen work lights, and an assortment of odds and ends (scroll lock 3M pads, drill bits, etc)

That's very interesting about the 19 mm wrench working on the 3/4" SAE nut. I must have tried it with a new wrench on a new nut but it is only about 0.002" undersize so if the 19 mm wrench is a little worn I guess it will work too. I'll have to try it just for the sake of trivia.

13/25.4 = 0.512 " (approx. for a loose fit to 0.500")

19/25.4 = 0.748" (approx. for a tight fit to 0.750")

Don Shillady

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"Life is hard. Life is harder when you are stupid!"

Well using the nice edit feature of this site maybe I can get beyond stupidity. Thinking back I guess I worked on 6 VW engines before getting back to "SAE-land" so I was thinking from the metric point of view. Allow me to correct the trivia above.

A 13 mm wrench will work on a 1/2" SAE nut (loosely), BUT
a 1/2"SAE wrench will NOT fit a 13 mm nut.

A 3/4" SAE wrench will certainly fit a 19 mm nut nicely (which is what you said), BUT a 19 mm wrench will be a tight fit (if at all) on a 3/4" SAE nut.

It also seems that the (19 mm / 3/4") interchange is closer to going both ways if the wrench is worn or the nuts are cold.

This is certainly of little practical value and one still needs both sets of wrenches, but I want to set the matter straight.

Don Shillady

Yeah I most likely am going to just go ahead with Craftsman. I might as well because it's got the garantee (sp) so if it breaks then big deal, go get another one. I just can't stand when I am working on something that is important on my dirt bike or something and it's a part that needs to be on so dirt doesn't get in and your tool breaks and you have to wait to go to Sears because your poor bastard ass doesn't have a vehicle and has to wait for the pops to take him.... lol yeah that poor bastard I was talking about is me.

99.9% of my tools are craftsman and in my opinion unless you work out of a shop where the snap on guy will visit you every week then craftsman is the way to go.

I "like" snap on but the cost of them is just not justifiable for the home mechanic.

Only thing i DONT like about craftsman is the fact that they use to give you a brand new ratchet when you took a broken one back and now they give you a "rebuilt" one out of the box next to the register:rolleyes:

When did they start doing that?!

i found this out a month ago when i took back a 3/8 drive and they gave me a rebuilt one that was leaking oil out of the head while it was still in the bag!:mad:

BG

They do? Well damn I won't do that because if I don't get new one's back then I will have to steal them. That is pretty messed up, it's like making rules for a game and changing them in the middle of it.

Your sears store has issues then. Simply tell them that you bought it new, so you should get a new one. That will stop a lot of people rather quickly.

Yup they never use to do it but thats exactly what they did when i took the ratchet back :mad: kinda shocked me also becuase thats the first time that has happened.

They have a bottom roll box at the register now full of ratchets that are rebuilt and they give out the rebuilt ones. I have to take the leaking one back when i get a chance and you better believe they will not only get a piece of my mind but i WILL be walking out with a NEW ratchet:3dSMILE:

Yeah man, I don't think they are allowed to do that. If they don't give you a new one then you better steal one man, don't let them get away with that. Either that or call Craftsman or something and tell them about it.

What does their guarantee state?
I exchanged all my ratchets last year...i think they pulled em from a box, except the 1/4"one i got new (after some hassle) cause they didn't ahve one in the box.

Last time i exchanged one, i got a kit to rebuild mine!

Screw that, I wan't them brand new. I don't know what their guarantee states though. Let me check that out here on my cataloge and see.... Ok on the warrant Information section it says this: " If any Craftsman hand tool ever fails to give complete satisfaction, return it to Sears for free repair or replacement. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may also have other rights, which cary from state to state."
Maybe they can then? I don't know, doesn't really say, but it says they will give you a free repair or replacement. Oh well, as long as I don't have a broke one it's all ok.

Right now I am looking in this Craftsman cataloge and I was wondering what you guy's would think about getting a huge tool set with everything verses individual sets with things like combination wrenches in cases and all? In a way I like the wrenches and all in the little cases or holders but other times I don't but it all depends. Especiall the sockets I would like in a case instead of scattered in the the tool box or what-not.
Also does anyone know a site or anything with a list of most automotive tools I would need (not including combination wrenches, sockets, screw drivers, etc) because I know one time the auto tech teacher was telling the class about all the specialty tools for brakes, etc etc and I couldn't remember them all and only got to write a little down. I know I am asking a bit of questions but I just want to look for a set in here with most of the thing's I will need.
Thanks again.

If you have the cash, the entire set will save you $. However, you will find that many times you dont have the cash. Thats why we all spend our lives collecting tools.

Yeah I am going to try and save my money (5,000) until next summer and buy this whole set with all these automotive tools and every other tool I will need for now (some like 2000 peice or more set) and just put a little money to the side for this whenever I get some.

This is just my opinion FMX but i never was a big advocate of buying the huge tool sets if your not opening a grage business.

Reason i say that is there alot of tools in those huge sets that you really will not use very much. Personally i like to buy a ratchet set like a 132pc set and then buy what i will get alot of use out of like ratcheting wrenches,stubby ratchets,t-handle alan wrenches and such.

If you have a older car and your going to use the set for it primarily then you really dont have a whole lot of need for metrics and thats almost half the socets&wrenches in those huge sets.

I know some guys may disagree with what i just said but thats just how i look at it and how i have built my tool collection for myself.

just my .02

BG

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Originally posted by BlownGoat
This is just my opinion FMX but i never was a big advocate of buying the huge tool sets if your not opening a grage business.

Reason i say that is there alot of tools in those huge sets that you really will not use very much. Personally i like to buy a ratchet set like a 132pc set and then buy what i will get alot of use out of like ratcheting wrenches,stubby ratchets,t-handle alan wrenches and such.

If you have a older car and your going to use the set for it primarily then you really dont have a whole lot of need for metrics and thats almost half the socets&wrenches in those huge sets.

I know some guys may disagree with what i just said but thats just how i look at it and how i have built my tool collection for myself.

just my .02 BG

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No I agree with you.... I agree both way's actually. I know what you mean and right now that is basically how me and my dad have gotten all of our tools is buying the sockets, combinations, screw drivers, etc and then whenever we have to work on something and we don't have the part for it then we go to Sears and buy it and add on that way. Only thing I don't like is having to wait to go to Sears and all and wasting that time. I will use a lot of the tools but not a lot of the automotive tools as much, but I will still use all of them once in a while when working on the truck and thing's like that. I use a lot of metric tools for my dirt bikes and things of that sort at the moment and metric is a must for me to have, I can go without standard tools if I had to (but I won't). I will just have to see what happens, like I said, I don't have the money for it yet, I got to save up and see what goes. Anything can happen between now and later when I need them so we will just have to see, I just wanted to get some more input and info on these ahead of time.... I am just one of those people that likes to plan way ahead and make sure I don't mess up or forget nothing because every little thing stresses me out like that.
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Originally posted by Streets

And as for Sears... at least they don't give ya a "repaired" socket... hehehe...[/B] [/B]

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:HMMM: if i got a socket that was welded back together then i'd really be b****ing about it:LOL:

Ratchet for a hammer? wrench in pipe? come on streets you forgot the screw driver for a chisel and the ol' socket to knock the u joints out of the driveshaft trick:LOL:

Come on man, Streets is getting old here, he can't keep up and remember everything..... even though it seems like he does. Well let me change that, it doesn't SEEM like it, he DOES, like ask Streets a question, any question at all and he know's the answer and a link to the answer and a link to where he got the link probably. hah. If he doesn't know the answer he will be sarcastic to you and then make up a story and then after he is all done he will know someone that does know. He rarely ever tells people that he know's of someone else that knows something he doesn't, but he is sarcastic a lot.... I bet if he reply's to this post here he will say something to make you laugh.
heh.

Oh and I know I am getting off topic here but I got something to back up what I just said here. haha.
http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/sho...&threadid=5862

Now Street's can't say I am lying can he? heh. Just messin with ya too Street's so don't take this seriously.

Buy the basic tools (sockets - 1/4, 3.8 and 1/2 up to 1 inch) - 6 point chrome, shallow and deep
SAE and Metric, since most every US car has been metric since 1980 or so.

allens, torx, 36 oz or so soft hammer, brass hammer (24oz or so)
wratcheting box end wrenches - SNAP ON ONLY sae and metric
combination wrenches sae and metric, 12 point

pliers, vise grips, needle nose pliers, snapon or equivalent stork LONG needle nose pliers

full set of straight and phillips screw drivers.
torque wrench (3/8 and 1/2 maybe..)

The rest depends on what you do or how much money you have. I have the commmon allens in 'socket' form, one brake tool from 30 years ago, cotter pin and hose 'pullers' (used in car work, rarely in bike work - the allen sockets used a LOT in bike work).

My 1/2 sockets are short chrome sae craftsman, deep mac impact metric, and generci deep impact sae. Rarely if ever have i needed the extra thin wall of a 1/2 inch chrome socket to fit someplace.

I have a thin and long 10mm snap on wrench for a specific bike i used to work on. Those types of tools you'll p ick when you start working as the need arises.

Theory is, if you need to borrow it 3 times, you need to buy it.

Nest tool i need is a cooling sytem pressure tester....have needed it way too many times in the past year!

Thanks for the info man. What do you mean by SNAP ON ONLY? Also thos pressure tests for the radiator cap, can they be used for dirt bikes and car's or are they different for cars? Also compression tools (forgot the name right now) but if the cmpression check tool for car's the same as the dirt bike or motorcycle ones? I forgot how to even do leak down tests and compression checks on a car since we only watched the teacher do it once. That is the thing I didn't like about my class is that the teacher would just explain something to you real fast and just show you how it works instead of letting you do something yourself and learning that way and I just forget it now and forgot how he did the compression checks and all. I will have to just wait for that I guess, but how often do hot rodders check their compression and all? I am not sure if it's the same with dirt bikes where you check it often or right before it's time for an engine to blow so you can make sure it's alright.

and channel locks. you'll need channel locks.

compression tester is same for all cars/bikes/boats, etc. leak doen is an additional tool..used one once or twice in 15 years. Used compression tester alot on bikes, rarely on cars.

For instance, the Jeep i just got with a 'bad motor'. Didn't hear it run till i bought it and got it home. tinny rap sound..kinds odd. pulled a valve cover on the noisy side...everything moving except the oil...the everything stopped. No need to compression test or leak down this one!:LOL:

The rad tester itself is the same, but their are adapters for all the different size rads and caps.

And torque wrench,"click" kind not the chessy "pointer" type!

I have a 140 dollar Crafsman torque wrench already but wan't that compression tester for my bikes. But yeah Streets I am part mexican (can't even tell though) but can't read all that spanish, don't worry I will translate it to see the shit you are talking about me. haha.
Thanks for all the help guys. Damn I feel like I learn in here more than a class and then I got Streets over here giving me a spanish class and extra homework. heh

Damn these translators suck! I can't figure out everything that Street's said because of course how some stuff in spanish is backwords and all. Anyone wan't to tell me what he meant? The ending says something about armed forces and a few other things in there about shit or something. I feel dumb for living with a greatgrandmother when I was a little kid and they spoke spanish all the time and I still don't know it. lol

This isnt spanish. Hmm, wonder what language it is?

Dutch to English comes out too
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French to english:
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German to english:
E o que há de errado com risonho FMX? È venito sull'uomo, le Strade prende vecchio qui, non può tenere IL passo e tutto ricorda..... anche SE sembra come companies. IL pozzo ME hectar lasciato ciò cambia, non SEMBRA come Esso, COMPANY, come chiede una domanda all Strade, qualunque domanda A tutta l'e SA la risposta OD una maglia alla risposta OD una maglia A dove hectars preso la maglia probabilmente. IL hah. SE non SA la risposta sarà sarcastico A lei e recupera poi una storia e poi dopo che è tutto fatto saprà qualcuno che SA. May dice raramente di persone che SA di qualcuno che SA altro qualcosa companies non, mA è sarcastico un Lotto... Ho scommesso SE egli risposta A questo palo qui dirà qualcosa by farlo ride

Italian to English:
And or que há de errado com risonho FMX? It is venito sull'uomo, the Roads takes old here, it cannot hold the step and all it remembers.... even if it seems like ago. The sink me has left that changes, DOES NOT SEEM like it, AGO, as it asks a question the Roads, any question to all l'e knows the answer and a mesh to the answer and a mesh to where it has taken the mesh probably. the hah. If it does not know the answer it will be sarcastico to she and it recovers a history then and then after that is all fact will know someone that it knows. It never says very rarely of persons that it knows of someone that something knows other makes not, but is sarcastico a lottery... I have bet if it answer to this pole will say something here in order to make laughs it

Keorean to English:
E o que herrado com risonho FMX? hyeylvenito sull' uomo, le Strade prende vecchio qui and non puil passo e tutto ricorda. .... anche se sembra come fa. Il pozzo me ha lasciato ciand non SEMBRA come esso, FA and come chiede una domanda alle Strade and qualunque domanda a tutta l' e sa la risposta ed una maglia alla risposta ed una maglia a dove ha preso la maglia probabilmente. il hah. Se non sa la risposta sara lei e recupera poi una storia e poi dopo che fatto saprche sa. Mai dice raramente di persone che sa di qualcuno che sa altro qualcosa fa non and ma un lotto. ... Ho scommesso se egli risposta a questo palo qui dirper farlo ride

Portugese to english:
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Spanish to english:
And or that há of missed com risonho FMX? È venito sull'uomo, him Strade pledges vecchio qui, non può tenere il passo and tutto ricorda..... widens sembra eats fa. Il pozzo is lasciato ciò changes to me, non SEMBRA eats esso, FA, eats chiede one domanda alle Strade, qualunque domanda to tutta l'e sa risposta ed one maglia alla risposta ed one maglia to dove is prisoner maglia probabilmente. il hah. Non sa risposta sarà sarcastico to law and recovers poi one storia and poi I drug Che è tutto fatto saprà qualcuno Che sa. Mai says rarely I gave persone Che sa I gave qualcuno qualcosa Che sa altro fa non, ma è sarcastico lotto.... Ho scommesso egli risposta to questo qualcosa wood qui dirà per Officers' Club of Revolutionary Armed Forces it ride.


Soo, looking at all of these, I would be willing to say it is a Variated(Accented) Itialian.:rolleyes:

All looks greek to me:whacked: