Thread: Por-15 Review
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09-13-2016 07:23 PM #16
Roger it's been on the frame for over 7 years, it ain't coming off. Still stand by it" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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09-13-2016 08:21 PM #17
Ryan, it sounds to me like you might consider a rust converter, which chemically changes iron oxide to iron tannate. I would think that you could pressure wash the areas to be treated, let it dry and then apply the rust converter. Google "rust converter" and see what you think. Here's one that looks like you might be able to spray on, but I'd check the FAQ's first - https://www.theruststore.com/Rust-Co...AQs-W48C2.aspx Follow with your paint of choice, maybe like Rustoleum's industrial line since you're not looking for show quality.Last edited by rspears; 09-13-2016 at 08:24 PM.
Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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09-14-2016 10:07 AM #18
rust is better left exposed rather than cover it up with an encapsulater. just leave it be and it will not get any worse. when it is covered with dirt or mud it grows. ever wonder why cars rust in the bottom of the doors or floorboards? because it is covered by dirt. when the por or other such crap falls off usually nothing is left. paint it with a rattle can it will live longer .
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09-14-2016 10:28 AM #19
I've found rustoleum to be problematic in appplications other than a single coat. It tends to blister and wrinkle if additional coats are applied.
For rattle can applications, I use Krylon..
Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry.
EG
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09-14-2016 11:54 AM #20
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09-14-2016 11:55 AM #21
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1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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09-14-2016 11:57 AM #22
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1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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09-14-2016 12:04 PM #23
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How many of those 7 years have been driving with rocks hitting it etc? Another thing to keep in mind, I bet your 7 year ago made POR is not of the same quality as today's. Here is a pic of part of the frame that peeled. Other areas around that spot are glued on. Then you have more peeling next to it. I found these awesome spots while scuffing the por to top coat it. Luckily for me, from the leaf spring hangers back I used acid etch primer, then applied the por. All that stuck fine. I scuffed all that with 80 grit and then applied raptor liner. It should be good to go now. From the front shackles forward the customer wanted smooth and shiny. I should have messed up and just applied raptor liner to it too. It would have been done last week! Keep in mind this is on a 550hp diesel mall crawler. (If it matters) Haha
I have stripped the peeling por with paint stripper and wire wheels. Hopefully in the morning I can mask it all off and get it shot. Then it will be time to paint trans, tcase, and then assemble the engine.Last edited by 40FordDeluxe; 09-14-2016 at 12:07 PM.
Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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09-14-2016 02:11 PM #24
I've tried replying a few times but the site seems to go dead!
So one last attempt! We used to apply (brush on) phosphoric acid ( I believe it was) and let it dry, then wipe it down with clean rags / towels and then spray on paint. I think it does what you're asking, oxidizes the rust so you can topcoat over it.
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09-14-2016 05:45 PM #25
If it matters to anyone, Rustoleum's Industrial product doesn't come in rattle cans. It's only in bulk containers, and it has a specific primer that goes with that line. It can be sprayed, but in a traditional spray gun with enough orifice to flow the paint. I used it on about 200' of custom deck railing, and after five years it looks like the day it was sprayed. Rattle cans are for hobbys.Roger
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09-15-2016 11:40 PM #26
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09-26-2016 02:19 PM #27
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I figured I'd post pics of the project after I shot some single stage on it. No more por.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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10-08-2016 06:12 AM #28
As Stovens said the more rust the better, if those spots that you noticed the por peeling from didn't have any kind of surface rust i would imagine it probably didn't have anything to adhere to. It's really not meant to be used as an undercoating per say, but rather as rust inhibitor for particularly bad places. We use it on the under side of hoods and floors for the most part. Works excellent on a frame too but sand blasted and epoxy prime is best for that.
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