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Hey Pat, you want to send your money to China you just go right ahead!!!! Personally I'll pay the extra bucks and go with an American made product for the engine. No amount of your babble to me justifies supporting an economy that has cost the US so many jobs!!!! But hey, if saving a buck is more important to you, then just go right ahead!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Hey Pat, you want to send your money to China you just go right ahead!!!! Personally I'll pay the extra bucks and go with an American made product for the engine. No amount of your babble to me justifies supporting an economy that has cost the US so many jobs!!!! But hey, if saving a buck is more important to you, then just go right ahead!!!!!

you slow ? or what .. OH your mad that i had to ship a 1700 crank made by lunati that was made in china core back .. well not as much is me .. you sir are a ass .. you posted saying your lunati crank is usa made???? ...that was now ... Not the core. not any more. so get off your soap box i still use usa parts but very few now .. why did many GO the china core way?? I DO NOT KNOW ...would think at a money deal and EPA many are what they are china cranks i posted on something i know about as a dealer and builder of engines. all makes evey day i think i know about were parts are coming from better then many on here so if the OP wants to buy usa i would be happy to steer him that way. as you do not have a cue were any thing is made now . you and Rs spears have no cue on something ??????? you should just keep moving . now lunati cores are not all usa made and so are the heads of rspears car china heads and crank and rods and i bet many more parts in his engine.... why he likes your post is beyond me?

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

....now lunati cores are not all usa made and so are the heads of rspears car china heads and crank and rods and i bet many more parts in his engine.... why he likes your post is beyond me?

Well Pat, I've never made any claims about the parts in my engine, and where they're made, and in fact I've been very open about running ProComp heads which are a China casting that were bought because my builder thinks they have more "meat" in the chamber area to allow more creative bowl porting; and that they were bought bare to ensure that the valves, springs & retainers were all good. I didn't specify any of the parts in my engine, but instead expressed that I was more interested in "best value", where I got the best available at the lowest cost, didn't simply throw dollars at names as opposed to going lowest cost, and I trust my engine builder. If you look at the facts, the US foundries have backed away from high alloy steels, and the only place that high alloy piping and other products is made is in the foundries of Japan, and yes, China. Most of the aftermarket automotive companies have shifted to China for their complete manufacturing process, from raw forgings through initial machining and then to finish machining because they can increase profits. A few have realized that there is really no choice on where to get their blanks and rough machined parts, but they import those rough and then utilize the skilled craftsmen in the USA to do the finish machining and secondary heat treating, paying the higher wage for more assurance of quality finished products.

Whose posts I like is my personal opinion. I may only like one phrase within someone's reply enough to hit that "Like" button. What is beyond me is what I've done to attract your ire? Based on posts in the past six months or so I'd venture that if I stated that the sky is blue you'd come back and argue about the hue of blue and that it's not a "true blue". The sad thing is that these rabbit trails do absolutely nothing to address the issues of the original poster, and in fact may make him wonder why he's here. With that I'll take Jerry's tack and say "I'm out of this one until the OP comes back with another question...", and maybe not even then unless I believe I can add some value. You have a blessed day.

Originally Posted by rspears

Well Pat, I've never made any claims about the parts in my engine, and where they're made, and in fact I've been very open about running ProComp heads which are a China casting that were bought because my builder thinks they have more "meat" in the chamber area to allow more creative bowl porting; and that they were bought bare to ensure that the valves, springs & retainers were all good. I didn't specify any of the parts in my engine, but instead expressed that I was more interested in "best value", where I got the best available at the lowest cost, didn't simply throw dollars at names as opposed to going lowest cost, and I trust my engine builder. If you look at the facts, the US foundries have backed away from high alloy steels, and the only place that high alloy piping and other products is made is in the foundries of Japan, and yes, China. Most of the aftermarket automotive companies have shifted to China for their complete manufacturing process, from raw forgings through initial machining and then to finish machining because they can increase profits. A few have realized that there is really no choice on where to get their blanks and rough machined parts, but they import those rough and then utilize the skilled craftsmen in the USA to do the finish machining and secondary heat treating, paying the higher wage for more assurance of quality finished products.

Whose posts I like is my personal opinion. I may only like one phrase within someone's reply enough to hit that "Like" button. What is beyond me is what I've done to attract your ire? Based on posts in the past six months or so I'd venture that if I stated that the sky is blue you'd come back and argue about the hue of blue and that it's not a "true blue". The sad thing is that these rabbit trails do absolutely nothing to address the issues of the original poster, and in fact may make him wonder why he's here. With that I'll take Jerry's tack and say "I'm out of this one until the OP comes back with another question...", and maybe not even then unless I believe I can add some value. You have a blessed day.

well why are you wasting time with this post. you and dave are very slow ??? i stated that lunati core is made in china . your parts in your engine are made in china why should evey one get pissed out of shape ??op should be happy i let the guy know bout lunati. you can tell the guy why you did the china parts way .i never said any thing other then what i use and whats is not made in the usa any more . lunati is not made in the usa any more .you do not machine engines No. do you sell parts ? No . dave only knows how to hack cars up and make them look like$hit . not a engine builder god i hope not . but jump down me.. stating the facts about a part that he not used in 7 years. i am on the phone every day buying and selling parts. like i said no cue dave .. for one man machine shop and do machine work for two other machine shops so i think i do ok i have many customer they seem to like what i done for them this is not allways easy . i have 3 warehouse i deal with and can get just about any thing my customers need . so if i say something just on the off chance i may know what i am talking about as i do this stuff every day