Thread: Which Carb for my 350?
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02-18-2011 05:02 PM #1
You could also opt for an Offy 360 part# 6007,but they are a little pricey and IMHO the best after market intake manifold available.Ken Thomas
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02-18-2011 05:36 PM #2
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02-18-2011 05:54 PM #3
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02-18-2011 07:29 PM #4
Tech inspector... Holy cow thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. Any thoughts on a good carb? Dual Carbs? Again... Thank you!1936 Plymouth 4 Door Custom Convertible
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02-18-2011 08:02 PM #5
As far as what I consider the best 4-bbl carburetor ever designed, that honor would have to go to the Rochester Quadrajet. Original equipment on millions of General Motors vehicles through the years, the Q-jet was fairly complicated to rebuild and tune and not many fellows spent the time to get to know how to do it properly. Cliff Ruggles is one of the best known experts on Quadrajets and he says that a properly set up Q-jet is very close to electronic fuel injection in performance.
http://www.cliffshighperformance.com...history_1.html
If I wanted to build a state of the art carburetor motor (I guess that sounds like an oxymoron, huh?), I would use a Ruggles Q-jet and an Edelbrock RPM Quadrajet intake....
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7104/
(notice how the secondary bores are larger than the primaries? That's for the huge Q-jet secondary throttle blades to clear).
Then I'd set the fuel pressure at 5 psi at the carb inlet and mount a 14" x 4" air filter assembly.
Any of the enthusiasts on this forum who are around my age can remember the BA-WAAAAAAHHHHHH sound the carb would make when you'd wood the loud pedal.
Call Cliff up and talk with him. It's at least worth a phone call to find out about the cost and such. He can tailor the carb to your vehicle and your driving style.
As far as a dual-4 arrangement, I'd use the Edelbrock RPM Air Gap #7525...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7525/
and two 500 CFM Edelbrock Thunder Series AVS #1803 and 1804 carbs. HEI will not fit with this intake. Must use small diameter distributor.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1803/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1804/Last edited by techinspector1; 02-18-2011 at 08:19 PM.
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02-18-2011 09:11 PM #6
Thank you. You are practically building my motor. I'm just buying the parts and doing the installs!
1936 Plymouth 4 Door Custom Convertible
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02-18-2011 09:26 PM #7
Ok I sent out into the garage and got some inf on the motor. Currently on the motor is an Edelbrock Performer intake manifold and an Edelbrock 1401 carburator. If I don't use the Victor JR, where do I go from here to make more power? Still don't know what cam is in it currently. Something... but not sure what.
Step up to the Performer RPM dual and some better dual carbs?
P.S. my problem with this car is, I bought it from my father who bought it a few years ago years ago and never did anything to it but drove it. He has no clue what's in it. And I can't find any info on the previous owner to call and ask.1936 Plymouth 4 Door Custom Convertible
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02-18-2011 10:09 PM #8
You're facing a problem that anyone who buys a running auto has to deal with. I guess some of us on this forum buy them that way, but I would think that the majority of board members here have built their own motors, if not their complete ride.
You can spend money and effort on this piece and that piece and hope for the best or you can tear into the motor and build it for yourself. Your choice.
What I would do in your case would be to start at the rear of the car and upgrade everything. If you put more soup in the motor, the rear will have to be upgraded anyway. Make sure you have the proper gear for the converter and transmission you will use at the speed and accelleration you want. Install a locker to prevent the right rear from spinning. Install good axles that won't break and leave you stranded on the other side of East Treestump. Install new compliance bushings in the suspension. I like rubber, not poly. You do as you wish.
Once I had the rear up to snuff, I'd locate a late model short block or long block builder motor and haul it down to my favorite machine shop for some whittlin'. All the time I was building the motor on a stand, I could be still driving my rod. When built, one weekend would be all it would take to change motors. Then the motor that came out would go on craigslist.Last edited by techinspector1; 02-18-2011 at 10:15 PM.
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06-06-2011 12:37 PM #9
performance wise probably nothing .. single carbs can be had plenty big enuff to do the trick .. multiple carbs just have a " wow " effectiv`e used up all my sick days at work .. can i call in dead ?
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06-06-2011 01:45 PM #10
Except for fuel injection, nothing works better on an engine than a properly matched 4 barrel carb and intake, taking into account smoothness, reliability, economy, and cost. But they just aren't as "cool" as a couple or bunch of carbs perched atop a motor, expecially in a hoodless car.
Hot rods, by their very nature, are compromises in all respects. They are not as safe, comfortable, economical, or sensible as the stock passenger cars we drive daily, and we know that going in. But that is not the reason we build them. We build them for the excitement and the looks we get from every other driver on the road who isn't having as much fun as us.
But for your setup, stick an Edelbrock 500-600 carb on a good dual plane intake and it will do everything you want it to do.
Don
Oh, and I saw Richards comment about the 5 psi being right for an engine and he is dead on. I just pulled the Holley 12 psi pump out of my 27 and put a Carter 5 psi in and the car runs better and is actually getting better fuel mileage, considering the 2 x 4 setup and 4:30 gears.Last edited by Itoldyouso; 06-06-2011 at 01:49 PM.
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06-06-2011 01:48 PM #11
Thanks for the info. I was always curious if the multiple carb set ups did anything other than look cool.
I've got an Edlebrock Performer intake on it now with a 600 Edelbrock carb. I think the next step if I want to make more power is getting aluminum heads and a roller cam.1936 Plymouth 4 Door Custom Convertible
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02-19-2011 01:19 PM #12
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02-19-2011 03:58 PM #13
It's got a 10 bolt rear end. Not sure on gears. Gotta open it up and look. And mustang II front end. I'm assuming that whoever built this merged this body with an older camaro. (mid to late 60's?) It even has camaro buckets.Last edited by M22KLARS; 02-19-2011 at 04:02 PM.
1936 Plymouth 4 Door Custom Convertible
MSRA Member #22523
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02-19-2011 07:20 PM #14
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02-20-2011 06:30 AM #15
Dont want to hijack this thread, but I have the same question, same engine, perhaps the same use.
I currently have an old edelbrock 1406 on a edel high perf intake manifold. Neither myself or another old school mechanic can get it tuned just right.
So I have been looking at alternatives, get another rebuilt 1406, try to rebuild it myself, or look at a holley.
On other forums I have seen folks say that a vacuum secondary is the best thing since sliced bread. I dont believe that the 1406 has a vacuum secondary but the holley O-80570 does.
The question is Are vacuum secondarys better in a street/mild performance engine better?
Thanks!...at least I'm enjoying the ride!






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