Thread: Welding VW fenders to body questions

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Originally Posted by v8notchman

Pat, I looked up the West System and they have an extra slow hardener that would give me plenty of time. Would you use this to "bond" the fenders to the body? Is this to give it extra strength? Or would you use the West system to fill in the bigger portion of the gaps before applying filler?

The body parts are in really good shape. I am already working on cleaning these areas up. I do not have any areas of rust that need repair.

no thats what i use to seal the back side up for after the out side was all welded to keep moister and water out of the back side of weld joint. to glue fender on like i said you would use a metal bonder like lord fusor or 3m

Wow, the last time I did any body work, we had a two part Bondo, a credit card spreader and stack of sand paper. (That was 25 years ago )I really need to dive more into this subject.

The good news is if you mess up, you just have to start over

for filling gaps there is many ways to go. two for now 1 a epoxy and glass mat/cloth or carbon fiber if you go this way you may post cure the resin 2 fine ground glass filler marglass duraglass . body fill like Rage is not what i use on a seam. if need some fill glass works much better and stronger

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

for filling gaps there is many ways to go. two for now 1 a epoxy and glass mat/cloth or carbon fiber if you go this way you may post cure the resin 2 fine ground glass filler marglass duraglass . body fill like Rage is not what i use on a seam. if need some fill glass works much better and stronger

Pat, I completely respect your opinion (I lurk here a lot and look for your Posts), but if he uses an Adhesive I promise it won't move-I work for a Company that has GM Dealerships, and I go into the Body Shop and watch those Masters at work a lot-they will bond a Panel, then use the left over Bonding Agent to fill the Gaps-I'm not quite comfortable with that, but that stuff is amazing-

Originally Posted by 35WINDOW

Pat, I completely respect your opinion (I lurk here a lot and look for your Posts), but if he uses an Adhesive I promise it won't move-I work for a Company that has GM Dealerships, and I go into the Body Shop and watch those Masters at work a lot-they will bond a Panel, then use the left over Bonding Agent to fill the Gaps-I'm not quite comfortable with that, but that stuff is amazing-

well i know some about this not as much as you but i did tell him there was a another way to do this job and that was to use a bonder . how he finsh the out side is a outline by the two ways he could go after the gap in the out side joints if he wanted to i did body work in shops for 30 years of my life ... i was one of them master ..... Icar and state cert for frame and all the other fun stuff, i did not use a glue gun much at that time more so for SMC

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

i was one of them master ..... Icar and state cert for frame and all the other fun stuff, i did not use a glue gun much at that time more so for SMC

Well then, nice to meet you........Mr. Master!

Originally Posted by 35WINDOW

Well then, nice to meet you........Mr. Master!

no it is MR Mc master i work in the dealer ship but i left there was a lot of screwing every body and any one . yes i was good at the body metal game .i made very good money at that time in my life and still would be doing it if the body was still willing , i put every drop of my life in to body and paint work and i do not have any problem say i was a master at it ... i still can back my mouth up on a good day

kitty hair is like cat hair balls in resin . a shorter strand glass would work better. on mixing guns i used lord bond glues in side engine blocks. for body stuff we used the 3m so you would want to look in the best bang of the buck