why thank you, glad to be here, Im goign to check at the column as soon as i get a chance, the car is outside and the weathers getting crappy so ill see what i can do! I remember probing the purple wire unhooked from the starter and it was on zero and went to 7.3 with the key forward. I dont thing the ground is bad from the battery because i have full power at the starter, lights and interior lights/windows work so i know the accesorries work. New battery cables are on my TO DO list but i dont think its the main culprit of not starting. Thanks for the welcome and the help!