Thread: running on hydrogen gas
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05-09-2008 10:52 AM #1
Originally Posted by sgo70
From seans article it sound pretty safe and undamaging.
Might try it in the old truck, not much to lose if she dies(1993 toyota with 170k) since we will probably get a new commuter next year anyway." "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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05-09-2008 04:13 PM #2
[QUOTE=stovens]Sean very interesting article. Anyone heard of using acetone in these small amounts? Any risk to engine or catalitic converter? o2 sensors?
I posted many many months ago that my dad has been using acetone for 2 years in his fuel, It got about the same replys as the hydrogen topic, as in no way it will work from alot who have never used it, but still are possitive it wont work. In his ford f-150 he gets an average of 3-4 mpg increase in highway mileage, as I also do in my f-150 for the last year. He gets the same results in his tahoe, But in my wifes jeep it is really not much difference. So it seems to work in some but not all. I will hear from him on the hydrogen this weekend and will post the results, you can either believe it or not.
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09-24-2010 06:28 PM #3
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09-24-2010 06:43 PM #4
re: H2
since it takes energy from the fuel->engine->alternator/battery to produce the H2,
and this conversion isn't 100% efficient, claimimg to run more mpg
would be akin to perpetual motion.
maybe if the hydrolysis ran on solar cell mounted on the roof it would help mpg by a tiny amount? (.1%), but probably better to use the solar instead of alternator saving a touch of engine drag.
unfortunately, air drag from the solar cells on the roof and the weight of the cells probably way exceeds any gains.
The acetone was thought to solublize water in the gas, hoping to separate into h2+O and burn when it turns to a plasma.
Since combustion also produces water and it comes out the tailpipe as such, evidently this doesn't work?
acetone plays sheer hell on plastics.Last edited by t0oL; 09-24-2010 at 07:20 PM.
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09-25-2010 09:30 AM #5
Wow here is a blast from the past. I reread my posts and laughed at myself!
With the economy the way it is, no new replacement vehicles purchased, the Toyota Truck now has 187k on it, still chugging down the road, with new tires since that posting, but no other work besides oil changes!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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09-25-2010 11:22 AM #6
TOol, dont forget that, until just the past few years, a solar cell's energy output NEVER equals the energy that it took to melt the sand to make the cell.....and solar cells degrade 10% per year so they never last long enough to pay for themselves....only a government handout (our tax money) makes them even close to viable (unless you live in a really remote place where solar is the cheap alternative).
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