You see that's the problem....I came to this web site to see if the thinking was the same as another paint website. Now at this other web site the comments are extremly positive with some saying the Astro gun paints as good as his Sata gun. This is seconded by many many other people .Now I highly doubt that's the Astro sprays as well as the Sata , however on none of the websites I frequent have I found anything other than praise for these guns. All acknowledge that these are down the food chain as far as expence but not in quality. Just trying to get some different feedback.