1940 Ford Tudor Build Thread

[40FordDeluxe]

An interesting note/warning about the heat of powder coating melting the silicone seal, destroying their tubeless sealing capability. Must be some guys running tubes on their newly powder coated wheels....

Roger, are you saying that some guys are needing to run tubes because the silicone seal is getting melted during the powder coating process and the wheels leak air?

[rspears]

Roger, are you saying that some guys are needing to run tubes because the silicone seal is getting melted during the powder coating process and the wheels leak air?

Yep, the TruSpoke site carries the warning, with the bright highlight to draw attention,

Important Note! If you purchase bare hot rod wire wheels with the intention of having them powder-coated elsewhere, the high heat involved in the powder-coat process will melt our silicone liner and the wheel will leak air. Please request further information from us before ordering. Thank you.

As for Randy's wheel size comment, the red truck's already "sidewall challenged" the way it sits, IMO! Low profile tires on a classic, including muscle cars, are just wrong to my eyes, but to each his own....

[randyr]

As for Randy's wheel size comment, the red truck's already "sidewall challenged" the way it sits, IMO! Low profile tires on a classic, including muscle cars, are just wrong to my eyes, but to each his own....

Roger, the rims on that truck are bigger than 17's, probably 18's or 20's on the rear. 17's would still allow for decent sidewall and still open up the look of the wheel. Rear tires will need to be at least 28" tall anyway.

[40FordDeluxe]

Yep, the TruSpoke site carries the warning, with the bright highlight to draw attention,

As for Randy's wheel size comment, the red truck's already "sidewall challenged" the way it sits, IMO! Low profile tires on a classic, including muscle cars, are just wrong to my eyes, but to each his own....

Roger, I see that now. But it looks like to me they are telling you that if you don't have them, Truespoke, powder coat the wheels, you can run into the problem of that happening. I copied it off their site.

Important Note! If you purchase bare hot rod wire wheels with the intention of having them powder-coated elsewhere, the high heat involved in the powder-coat process will melt our silicone liner and the wheel will leak air. Please request further information from us before ordering. Thank you.

[40FordDeluxe]

Nice wheels, but man, that price !

I know! The wheel vintiques wheels are a lot cheaper. I have some decisions to make. I think if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it and get the chrome spokes and a powder coated rim and brake cover. That's even more $$$. I'd like to run these to give it a vintage look. I saw a 40 on the HAMB with original style wheels, and I think it looks nice. I'm contemplating selling a couple engines and transmissions to get the pesos together for the wheels. We'll see what happens.

[randyr]

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I know! The wheel vintiques wheels are a lot cheaper. I have some decisions to make. I think if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it and get the chrome spokes and a powder coated rim and brake cover. That's even more $$$. I'd like to run these to give it a vintage look. I saw a 40 on the HAMB with original style wheels, and I think it looks nice. I'm contemplating selling a couple engines and transmissions to get the pesos together for the wheels. We'll see what happens.

Of course I'm going to make a pitch for bigger wheels like 17s.......and I'd skip the chrome spokes, paint or powdercoat the whole wheel in silver or gray or body color with a chrome cap....but then it's not my car or my money!
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[40FordDeluxe]

I was thinking 15x6 in the front and a 17x8 in the rear. I need to decide if I like the wider rear fenders or not. I'm still kind of torn right now. I will either go all black on the wheels with a hub cap and the trim ring, or royal blue PC and chrome spokes. The chrome spokes may not happen as I need so much other stuff that is more important to get it together. Here's a pic of one with some stock ford wire wheels that has me hooked on the look.

[randyr]

I was thinking 15x6 in the front and a 17x8 in the rear. I need to decide if I like the wider rear fenders or not. I'm still kind of torn right now. I will either go all black on the wheels with a hub cap and the trim ring, or royal blue PC and chrome spokes. The chrome spokes may not happen as I need so much other stuff that is more important to get it together. Here's a pic of one with some stock ford wire wheels that has me hooked on the look.

The black wheel thing is kinda in right now on both new & old cars. Looks pretty cool. You might want to think about 16s on front instead of 15s just to complete your larger wheel look a bit.
I had 15x7 chrome truspokes all around on my '37 back in the day with big & little tires. The spokes are a huge PITA to clean....

[40FordDeluxe]

The black wheel thing is kinda in right now on both new & old cars. Looks pretty cool. You might want to think about 16s on front instead of 15s just to complete your larger wheel look a bit.
I had 15x7 chrome truspokes all around on my '37 back in the day with big & little tires. The spokes are a huge PITA to clean....

You're probably right Randy. The 15s would probaly look dinky. The pic of the project 40 I posted sure looks like it has at least 17s on it now that I look at it more. I'll probably go at least 16s in the front and 17s in the rear. Maybe 17s all the way around. I bet those chrome spokes were hard to keep clean. I didn't really take that into consideration. The black ones may stay clean easier. Hmm

[40FordDeluxe]

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Thanks for the help and ideas guys. I would hate to spend the money on the wheels and hate the look and wish I would have changed it before I knew or thought about it. I saw on my internet searches that the ford wires came in a few different sizes. I thought about goign that route but I do not want that narrow of a rear tire, and I'm sure the old wheels would need some work or wouldn't be strong enough. So I figured the new ones were the way to go. On the drop, and such..... If I ever get the body on the chassis, maybe we can see what it will look like. Right now the body looks like it is ready to set on a 4x4 chassis. Haha

[34_40]

On the pic of the project car you posted. The stock wheels just don't "feel" right.. to few spokes imho.. it leaves a big gap that just draws my eye in to the hole...

Wire wheels look okay on a Triumph or an MG... but to each his own right?!?!?!

[40FordDeluxe]

I agree, I don't exactly like the less spokes in those wheels. I just think the wire wheels help give it an old look. First I have to raise the funds o make it a reality. (If I don't change my mind first.) Haha

[rspears]

Maybe you can convince those kids that a soft bristle brush, soapy water and a hose squatting in front of a wire wheel is fun! Maybe re-read that part of Tom Sawyer where he's painting the fence before you start recruiting your wheel scrubbers....

[40FordDeluxe]

Something tells me it might be fun for 3 minutes and off to the pedal tractors and trikes it would be. Ha Ha

[40FordDeluxe]

I've been pondering the idea of putting hydraboost on instead of a vacuum booster. I'm not finding any pressure reduction valves to put in line before the rack to keep from blowing the seals on it. Anyone have any suggestions?