Guys let me clarify myself on the new TV shows, I, personally dont like all the bitchin, gripeing and soap opera tactics etc, but I realise thats what appeals to the general public and the TV production companies go for large numbers, this is good in the respect that the shows will attract many people whom do not even own a streetrod or bike and in turn may get interested in and eventually buy one. I personally like them all, streetrods, classics, hotrods, bikes etc, if its got wheels and an engine and goes rummmmm rummmmm I like it. Of course Streetrods are my first and foremost love. But we too should be concerned with large numbers. When the government hits your state with Bills to make our sport illeagle, then you will appreciate the large numbers of people fighting the government with you. Many voices make more noise than a few. The younger generation is into to the ricers, it may be because they prefer them or it may because they cant afford a rod, whatever the reason they should not be shunned or alienated because of the type of car they drive, afterall they are no diffrent from us in their love for cars. If we welcome them in and treat them with respect now, perhaps some day they will be the ones to carry the torch when we are no longer here. I can remember when I was young, I too was an outcast because of my passion for hotrods, the oldtimers would say there comes a crazy kid in and old junk hot rod, gonna run over somebody with that thing, they outta put them off the road. Any of you oldtimers ever hear that one, betcha have. But anyway we survived it and too will the young kids of today survive. Jack