Excellent craftsmanship, beautiful and creative use of materials, top notch pictures and reports.........
A big thimbs up to you!
I just read this thread thru for the first time........ Been pretty busy lately, it was well worth the time to read!
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Excellent craftsmanship, beautiful and creative use of materials, top notch pictures and reports.........
A big thimbs up to you!
I just read this thread thru for the first time........ Been pretty busy lately, it was well worth the time to read!
That sounds a good idea Ken, should be a nice detail even if its takes a while to do, I did these a while ago and also extended them 12", that took long enough !!! I might sell them on now and get a pair like you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Thurm
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ay7th20108.jpg
Interesting attention to the bones. Seems like an overly complicated part bolted to an assembly that finds beauty in simplicity.
I admire your fabrication skill, thought and attention to detail but i have an area under my bench where things i have made accumulate dust because they didn't pass the simplicity test. I find thta overly complicated is when vanity overrides the engineer in us, thta little guy sitting on your shoulder is whispering in your ear. Hard not to listen to him. Whom do you think Doane Spenser listened to?
You definitly won't like my T project then :LOL::LOL::LOL:
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Originally Posted by ojh
What one person sees as "complicated" another sees as "perfection". :D:D
Don
A 'T' project? Those things are the next evolution up from having a tiller for steering! How do you handle that or is it on the wrong side too? The 't' is a study of simplicity, Henry would not use 4 bolts if he could get by with three, the packing crates from parts suppliers became the floor boards, a forged steel clevis was replaced with a bent piece of wire for the ignition advance and a farmer was the consultant for expert mechanical shop repairs!Quote:
Originally Posted by roadster32
Just having fun Roadster, i'm sure i'd love your tee.
How true Don :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
So.........when my bride says dealing with me is complicated she really means I'm perfect? I'll be sure to tell her YOU said that!!:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
I like it - just wish I had enough tools to do some of the "complications" that folks like Ken and Steve can with SS as well as common steel.
T-buckets!! Love 'em. A study in simplicity until you get creative: http://www.google.com/images?q=t+buc...w=1677&bih=746
Thanks you guys I really appreciate the comments.
This thing with the lightning holes came about when I was figuring out what I was going to do for the infra structure inside the frame rails to strengthen the frame up. I already made up my mind that any lightning hole I made I wanted some big radius' on them, not just welding in the tubing and putting a small radius from the weld. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's a lot of work and I think it makes a part look real nice. I just want some big ones on this car. I have been playing with the idea of making some tooling I could slip inside of the different size material I'm using but it would take so may dies it would take forever. I have dimple dies but again they wouldn't work on say a piece of 2 X 3, you could get one side dimpled but not the other. Then I thought of just taking some 1/8" sheet metal and braking one side 90 degrees. With the pieces bent like that I could dimple both pieces then weld them together and I would have a piece of 2 X 3 with big radiuses. I gave up on that when I had flash backs on welding the stainless frame together, so that was out. That's how I came up with the idea of just machining the whole thing, drill an oversize hole and slip the machined piece in and weld around the hole and it's done.
Ken
Ken i wouldn't want to do this again :eek: i had to machine up some of the tubes in mine, it seemed to take forever to get them finished :(
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ly21st0824.jpg
That looks really nice, some times I think I should take up knitting :eek:
Too much time spent on fit, finish, and detail would be like having too much horsepower.....I'm sure it could never happen to me!!!!!!
Really like the look with the welded tube Ken!!! Looks good, works fine, lasts a long time!
Ken,
Have you ever given a thought to hitting the show circuit when this project is done? You'll notice I said done, not completed.:rolleyes: I'll bet there would be a big demand for a all S/S chasis + more car with the craftsmanship that yours displays.:) Just a crazy thought.;)
Jack.
Dave - I just procrastinate on the finished product. I keep looking at something I've done and wonder if there is a better way :eek:
Jack - I don't think I could do the car show circuit. When I go to a car event, and I'm there more than a few hours I'm ready to go. I couldn't spend 3 or 4 days at event. Probably my ADHD kicking in :LOL:
Here is what I'm thinking on the 'bones. That's a .250 radius at the front. The last hole at the end works out to only have a 1/8" I.D so the radius has to decrees. I thought it would look neat to go down that far. It gets tricky because it is going from a rectangle to a round. That transition really creates a lot of problems, the radius has to change as the diameter changes.
Ken
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Originally Posted by Ken Thurm
Ha! You????????? Personally I am just going to take up sitting in my chair and talking to myself. :o:D
And Bob, I have no doubt your Wife knows you are simply perfect in all respects! :LOL:
Don
I was working on my front end the other day, bolting things on to mock up the ride height of the front end. I got to the leaf spring and put it on, here is this nice stainless front end and this black ugly spring in the middle. I did some research and I decided to make my own springs out of stainless. I bought a piece of 17 4 stainless 4" wide and 12' long by 1/4". I took it over and had it sheared into 1 3/4" for the front spring and 2 1/4"for the rear. This has the properties very close to spring steel after heat treating. So tomorrow I'm heading over to the guy that makes my springs and he will bend them up so I can drop them off at the heat treater, then polish them.
Before I decided to do this I E mailed Eaton spring in Michigan, I think, and asked them if they would make them for me. There response was, no one can make springs out of stainless :eek:. So then I called my spring guy and he told me he had made some for the front end of a Indian motorcycle a few years back without any trouble. He gave me the phone number of a friend of his in northern Ca. who also makes springs. He told me that he makes coil springs out of stainless all the time. He gave me the heat treating numbers to shoot for. So we will see what happens.
Ken
That will really set all the other stainless frame members off nicely Ken. I've never heard anyone making their own springs before, so this is cool to see happen on your build.
Very nice build... I have been watching this build for a while now...Keep up the nice work..:)
Great idea Ken...Then when someone tells you that you can't do it that way, it becomes a necessity!!!!
I'm telling you, Ken, you are not going to be happy with plain old black tires on this car. I see some stainless steel tires coming out of your shop any day now!!!!!!!!! :eek::LOL::LOL:
You continue to amaze me. :)
Don
Ken - While I know that you are a DIY'er, here are some leaf spring manufacturers that might be equipped to do your SS springs and save your time for more fun things like polishing that chassis :http://www.thomasnet.com/products/le...7770402-1.html
I see where this is going...by next winter we'll be learning how how a 1 piece 12cyl stainless steel engine block with ardun heads can be made with a bastard file and a recycled napkin holder!
You mean plain, old ordinary chromeplated-beyond-my-means springs won't match well against the stainless? Who could ever tell? I mean, anybody that dares to look will have permanent eye damage from the reflection not to mention spacial disorientation from all the mirroring that will be going on. They won't even know you got springs on it!
Just having fun Ken and watching for what you do next. Amazing.
The lunar rover tires were "9 inches (23 cm) wide tire made of zinc coated woven 0.033 inches (0.84 mm) diameter steel strands attached to the rim and discs of formed aluminum." (quote from wikipedia) I'm sure Ken could do the same thing out of stainless steel. Burn-outs would be even cooler with sparks instead of smoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Steve - I agree, it looked terrible against the other parts. I think I have miss led you on the springs. I'm just the gofer in this, I got the material to take to the spring shop so he can put the arch in them. Then I will take them to the heat treater. I talked to the spring guy this morning and ask if I could take photo's of the process so I can post it here he said sure. So next Tuesday he will do his part.
no limits - Thanks, I'm glad you like it.
Dave - Absolutely, if he would of said, we have tried that before and couldn't get it to work or we couldn't find the right material. That was the wrong thing to tell me, I'm so hard headed, (sometimes it's not a good thing).
Don - I am seriously considering making the wheels out of stainless, along with the hubs, caliper mounts, calipers, and rotor hats.
IC2 - Thanks for sending me this, I think I have the right people.
ojh - Thanks, I just don't like the difference in looks with chrome next to the stainless, I think it needs to be one or the other. If it's shinny enough people won't see any mistakes :LOL:
Mark in Memphis - That would be cool!!!!!
Put some titaium and/or magnesion parts in those wheels for REAL IMPRESSIVE burnouts
O.K. Ken I found a stainless steel wallet today and thought now who do I know who could use one of these!:D:D
Seriously it's here:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=748450
here yah go....
For the man who has everything! :LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
Don
Ken i'm very interested to see how this works out :D
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Originally Posted by Ken Thurm
It would appear you can get everything off the Net !!!
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Originally Posted by stovens
The beginning of the description sounds like one of Pop's old girl friends......Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
;)
Thank's Steve, I have mine on order!! I'm going to put my registration and proof of insurance in it. Matching wallet, why didn't I think of that!!!!!!!!!:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
Ken
Are you referring to this part, Bob?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
Built like a tank, yet smooth as silk!
:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Don
Don I typed in your exact words into google and this picture was under images....good taste!
http://s4.thisnext.com/media/largest...n/74EBE17E.jpg
Thanks Steve, nice to see someone who has real taste in women, not like SOME people who will remain nameless. :LOL::LOL:
Ken, and I bet you thought your thread would remain unscathed and strictly about car building, huh? :LOL: Uncle Bob reminds me of that Mayhem guy on the insurance commercials..........whenever he is around trouble isn't too far behind. :LOL:
Don
Funny Steve........I typed in the same thing but added Pops name and this is what came up...........................:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
i had one of them.she kept forgettin where she lived.i ben watchin this one.aint said nothin . but thin is over the top nice!it just cant get much better.....im talkin bout the hot rod.not tank silk!!
Poor Ken. Just wanted to show us how he builds a cool hot rod and then Uncle Bob's evil twin has to show up.:LOL:
It's all downhill from here, Ken. :LOL:
Don
I just found someone to help Ken when he gets to the paint part of the build. She isn't cheap but when money is no object who cares?:rolleyes::LOL::cool:
Jack.
P.S. I hope this one isn't over the line.:eek: