Thread: title legality?

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sold all my cars on Racingjunk.com. they do have section for street cars, and they are world wide sold my 69 camaro to a guy in Germany.

i was just wanting to know if this title thing was as bare faced illegal as it looked.
the answer is yes.

Not necessarily............there are different shades of "illegal." Think about this..........the vast majority of people who may do something like that are hard working, tax paying, family people who simply like to tinker with old cars. Cars that for the most part have been cast aside and sit rotting in some back yard or field, and that are contributing nothing to our economy.

Now, along comes Mr or Mrs Hot Rodder or Restorer and they begin the process of bringing that rusting hulk back to life. To do that they buy parts........lots of parts which are usually made and sold by American companies and also that taxes are paid on, both on the wholesale and retail level. It took jobs to make those parts, and the workers earned money and paid taxes and bought stuff that they paid taxes on.

Finally, the car is ready to drive and the owner pays his sales tax, license fees, insurance fees,and starts driving it. Now he buys gas that has road taxes on it, and buys more parts, also with more taxes on them. So what has happened is that something that was just sitting idle has created a whole new level of money being spent that goes to stimulate our economy.

I see it as Patriotism! (so where is the harm done??)


Don

stolen ,parted out cars jack up everyones insurance rates.

using hot parts is bad juju.

i am not flaming ANYBODY.

billy, there's no question that theft is unacceptable and ultimately bad for everyone. But I'm with Don for the most part philosophically on this. The vast majority of rodders aren't stealing stuff and hiding it with phony paperwork. They're just trying to enjoy their hobby with the least amount of hassle. At worst they're performing a tax protest. There was once a nation formed by tax protesters who ousted an oppressive government, that nation went on to do a lot of good things for the world, but then....................well, we'll see......

The real problem, in California and everywhere else, is the idiots we send to the state and federal legislature!!!! If they're in office more then 1 term they seem to forget that they are there for the benefit of the MAJORITY of voters who put them in office and there only loyalty is to the highest bidder!!!!! The same bunch of "good old boys" in charge year after year doesn't even resemble a government of the people, for the people, and by the people as the constitution intended.... It only leads to a government that is for sale to the highest bidder.....

Around here we keep a couple of spies in the state legislature who watch for what the heck is coming up for vote... Doesn't really take a whole lot of phone calls and meetings to get down to the real answer of who is doing what, and which lobbiests are buying the votes.... A good editorial or any type of article that gets in front of the voters will sometimes resolve the problem.... Of course, the whole population of our state is less then that of Orange County---don't know if it works on a larger scale or not?????? But I do know, regardless of who the state legislator is, once he's told that this is going in to print and the voters will read about it, they tend to "adjust" their position..... After all, the last thing a politician wants to see in print is the truth!!!!!!

I have titles for cars that I've own as far back as 25 years, I will have to get them in order. Pay the penalty so I can be legal.

Richard

Ken, I'm purposely not quoting your last post because if you choose to edit the original it won't change the quote. Since you've got your real name on the posting I'd recommend you remove/change your last post.

I bought my 31 from Maine, which is a bill of sale state, on cars over 15 years old. even though I had a paper trail a mile long, the VIN could not be confirmed on the car, as it's stamped on top of the frame under the bodywork. our (Oregon) inspecting cop issued a new VIN for the car, but it remains a 1931 Ford (which may help explain why there are more cars registered than were built). he was, however, nice enough to explain that if I ever had the body off the car, he could inspect and verify the original VIN and re-issue the original VIN for the car and change my title back yet again.
As to the Californicators to my South...... I own an outdoor power equipment business in Oregon. the California air resources board (CARB) has been mandating emission rules for power equipment in CA for many years now. the problem for me is that the EPA has basicly stated that they can't afford to study the OPE (lawn equipment) emission "problem" themselves so whatever CARB decides to do in California, the EPA simply mandates as law for the rest of the country.
I suspect the same "logic" has, or will soon, hit the DMVs.

Cheers,
Lotsa

Hey Ken. Hang in there through this. I know you are thoroughly frustrated with this ordeal, but don't let it diminish your passion for the hobby. Take care

Thanks for all the contributions, I need to just calm down and see how this thing unfolds. It's just disheartening When something likes this is put into law, and something all of us is passionate about. I thoroughly enjoy building cars, it's calming to me, after a day at work it just relaxes me. I guess I just have to change how I do it, but sometimes I'm resistant to CHANGE.
I'm done whining.
Ken

Hey Ken, I have an idea. Ship all your 32's to me and we'll keep them safe in our shop so when you come to visit you can drive them with no worries about any adverse laws. We'll need the keys too, in case we need to "move them around the shop."

You might be right, this California thing might not shake out as bad as it seems. After all, you guys have had fender and emission laws out there for years and you know how well that worked out. Keep building them Ken, we need the bar raised to where you put it on every build.

Don

kEN, CAN YOU NOT USE THE SB100 TITLING ROUTE?

Originally Posted by Bruce lee

kEN, CAN YOU NOT USE THE SB100 TITLING ROUTE?

I'm not sure what that is.
Ken

Does anyone know what it take to get a title in Texas