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You got that right don! I have already been thinking of other ways to build a hot rod. Pretty soon just the small trips to daytona are gonna be too pricey for most too make.

John, I've seen some posts where attendance at some shows is already dropping. I bet there are a lot fewer vendors at Daytona next November, and maybe less cars too.

Don

Heck, as per Joe's link and the local news last night, the oil wells in NW South Dakota will pump oil at record levels this year, and the permit applications for new wells is way up also.... The county where the new refinery is scheduled to be built approved the site and the permit to build by a whooping 80% in favor.....

The world isn't going to stop turning just cuz of high prices on oil.... Life style adjustments will have to be made, for sure...

Just for a bit, lets look at some POSITIVE things that rising fuel prices will bring about.....

Maybe people will actually plan and combine....or maybe eliminate all the bs trips...Maybe give a neighbor a ride to the mall so you can have a bit of help with the fuel cost??? Statistics show that kids are overweight and lazy (got 2 of them statistics living here), maybe they'll have to walk or ride a bicycle and actually get out of the house and get some exercise!!!!

We run the race cars on E-90---not to save the world or stop the US dependancy on foreign oil, but just because it's here, it has 108 octane, and for some unknown (to me) reason it yields more consistent passes at the digs.....

Maybe people will actually have to THINK and resolve some issues on their own instead of waiting for the flippin' gov'munt to fix everything!!!!!

The history of Hot Rodders and Hot Rodding is that we, as a group and/or as individuals have learned to take what is available and modify it so it works for our situation.... Guess I don't see where this ALLEGED fuel shortage is going to be any different....

Maybe our government is totally out of touch and ineffective, but I'll be danged if I'm going to sit around and feel sorry for myself just cuz gas costs a few bucks more per gallon!!!! As with anything that is expensive, I'll just learn to use it a bit more wisely then I have..... Buck up, Hot Rodders, this ain't nothing but another obstacle and somehow we'll get around it, go over it, duck under it, or just flat kick it the hell out of the way!!!!!!

Don, I just hit the button and your post came up I thought scrolling up from the bottom WTH! I thought my computer had been taken over. I was relieved and I think my wife is thinking I'm crazy for laughing. I have a big grin on my face. That is funny.

The democrates want to increase taxes on oil companies, what do you think they will do when taxed? Pay it or pass on the burdon of higher taxes to the pump! If they get taxed the cost of fuel will go even higher.

Originally Posted by chevydrivin

The democrates want to increase taxes on oil companies, what do you think they will do when taxed? Pay it or pass on the burdon of higher taxes to the pump! If they get taxed the cost of fuel will go even higher.

You don't have to speculate, this was done before in 1980. It led to a reduction in production and allocation of fuel to the marketplace. Since this is a tax on profits it's more difficult to "pass it on", so they reduce their tax burden in other ways. Once the tax was recinded the production rate went up and the prices went down. Duh! There's an old adage in politics; subsidize what you want to encourage, tax what you want to discourage. Of course politicians will deny the negative outcomes as being the result of their actions, just as they deny their obstruction of expanded exploration and production of our own resources as contributing to today's market problems. However, they are effective scapegoat artists and pass the blame onto "big oil". Sadly they have enough party loyalists they are able to get away with it.

Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it........ Don't remember who said that, but it seems like we're caught up in it again......

It's not this party or that party causing problems, it's the whole dang system!!!!!! The oil producing companies are the one's making the big bucks on fuel..... The oil companies are taking care of their stockholders.... As others have also said, if most companies had to operate on the same margin as the oil companies they'd be broke in 6 months...... For a shop to make money, the markup has to run at least 22%, last I heard the oil companies run around 7%....

It's just the old blame game....Peolple just point fingers and don't really want to do a dang thing about the problem.... If this country would voluntarily cut their consumption and encourage (subsidies, less restrictive laws) US oil production the old law of supply and demand would take effect.... It's what controls pricing in other companies, the oil companies could only respond the same way.....




PS---Yes, Uncle Bob, I know that running ethanol in the drag cars doesn't do anything but give me warm fuzzies (and 3 wins, 2 runner-ups this year) but I like warm fuzzies....Heck, I even walk to work---just don't tell anybody it's 20 paces out the back door!!!!!

Dave, Not trying to change the subject but do you have any pictures of your car at the racetrack? Maybe start another thread about racecars if there isn't one here already, and if so try to add some if you can.

Richard

Originally Posted by ford2custom

Dave, Not trying to change the subject but do you have any pictures of your car at the racetrack? Maybe start another thread about racecars if there isn't one here already, and if so try to add some if you can.

Richard

Kewl!! Yeah, if anyone is interested in them, I'd be glad to do up some pics!!! I actually built the Comet in about '97 so it's got a bunch of time on it, the 'Bird has only been running for 3 years now... But yeah, I'll get some more recent shots (everything I have is old film photos) and be glad to post them.....

I have a bunch of pictures of what will be the "next one" in my gallery, it's a '67 Ranchero.... Trying to move up a class or two with it....Build delayed for time and money!!!!

If I have to build a 1200 lb hotrod powered by a hopped up motorcycle engine just to be able to afford to drive it, so be it. They aint stoppin me that easy! Say, that's not a bad idea!

There used to be a company out of Reno Nv. that made a 3/4 size T bucket kit that used a variety of inline 4 cylinder motorcycle engines for power. They didn't sell many.....................but timing is everything. Wonder if they still have the tooling?

The fuel prices are always higher in the U.K. because they have a fantastic public transit system. You can grab a bus or subway ride to almost anywhere in the main population areas. Alot fewer people buy fuel because most of them do not drive to work, or to go out on the town. So they charge more for fuel to those who do drive to even out the profits world wide. But for those who struggle to get by and have a hot rod, Im sorry for your fuel prices!

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

There used to be a company out of Reno Nv. that made a 3/4 size T bucket kit that used a variety of inline 4 cylinder motorcycle engines for power. They didn't sell many.....................but timing is everything. Wonder if they still have the tooling?

It's the perfect time for a company like that to make some bux, Bob. If I could build something like that or like the pictures I posted and get 50mpg, I'd use it for an everyday commuter in a minute. The top one is a glass body and tube frame powered by a 1100cc Kawasaki engine. You can still buy plans for it for $100.

Don wrote:

John, I've seen some posts where attendance at some shows is already dropping. I bet there are a lot fewer vendors at Daytona next November, and maybe less cars too.

Don, attendance was down 17% from last year at the NSRA York Nats East. Some may have been due to the hot as hell weather (heat index 103 for 5 days), but I think alot was due to the gas prices/economy. As to the vendors, quite a few from the western states and the southeast were no shows, incuding California Car Cover which has been there almost from inception.

I might have to resurrect my motorcyles from their long term storage and start going to motorcycle events again. The hotrods are becoming kind of expensive to take even on short trips.

Bob wrote:

There used to be a company out of Reno Nv. that made a 3/4 size T bucket kit that used a variety of inline 4 cylinder motorcycle engines for power.

At my age and size, I'm going to need something bigger than 3/4 size. Even the full size are a ltitle tight. To save weight I wonder if they can build them out of papiermache?