Thread: Another Brookville body whine

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I took a look at my Brookvlle 31 body.
Same deal as yours on the door bottom molding/beltline/whatever match.

I don't have a stock A to look at, but checking pics of my pal's gennie 29 A roadster looks like the same thing in the same area except the driver's door is the skinny side.

Other area's seem to be ok, but probably won't get noticed until I get to the paint stage.

I did try my 32 top on the 31 and it's a good fit except for being 2" too long in the horizontal bar area right behind the windshield post.
I'm using the 31 windshield stanchions and 2" chopped 32 windshield posts.
A nice swap fwiw.
(Not sure if the 32 posts work with an A windshield frame since I'm building my own windshield frame.)

The 32 top was tried on for size since the rear of the top leans forward and is a little swoopier than the vertical rear of an A top.


Bumpers?

Don,
Have't seen you here for a while - I just assumed you were still trying to make light bend (Einstein?)

Glad to hear that the Bebops body is pretty good. There are a lot of different mfrs out there but not all are good.

Since I've modified the rear of my frame for a '32 gas tank, IF I use bumpers the spreader bar has 7/16 bolts and should carry my weight. And C9 wont consider them, but others might have need any photos you have.

C9
I'm using the deluxe windshield posts which are in effect, the same as 2" chopped. In using the forward slanting '32 top, you might run into some head rubbing on the top if you have to have the seat all the way back. Unfortunately my upholsterer didn't take pictures and I forgot my camera when I visited him for final approval - I'm using LeBaron-Bonney irons but a custom designed covering that is way different then the stock '31.

As a note, your upolsterer might be very happy with you if he can do his work before final paint if he can put it together for ease of disassembly then reassembly after paint. He wont have to worry as much about bumps and scratches to your mega buck BC/CC

Oh, the door problem - I really don't think Henry built them this far off - tho Brookville did, based on my other problems and lack of their QC

C9 - I was doing some more sanding and another item that is mentioned is the body band under the windshield that holds the cowl cover/gas tank down - the top part of the stamping, right side of mine was about 3/8" wider then the left and had to be sectioned to match. If yours is the same, I can explain how I fixed mine - but no digital photos.

Originally Posted by Irelands child

Don,

Since I've modified the rear of my frame for a '32 gas tank, IF I use bumpers the spreader bar has 7/16 bolts and should carry my weight. And C9 wont consider them, but others might have need any photos you have.

I have a 'gasser' style bumper on the rear of my 32 roadster.
So far it's not been hit, but much more than a light tap would probably allow damage.
I got nervous when people start following to close.
Not the usual drivin' a little bit close, but clowns who want to make you nervous or show you up or whatever it is their feeble little brains have cooked up.

The 31 will probably get a pair of nerf bars in the back.

Gennie bumpers be good, but front bumpers are so low in most cases that they're not much more than a decoration.
I was looking at my pal's full fendered 29 roadster last Thursday.
He did the fore and aft parking bit down at the "Great Race" pit stop gathering - one car after the other and the car in front would have had no problems backing into his grille shell and radiator.



C9
I'm using the deluxe windshield posts which are in effect, the same as 2" chopped. In using the forward slanting '32 top, you might run into some head rubbing on the top if you have to have the seat all the way back. Unfortunately my upholsterer didn't take pictures and I forgot my camera when I visited him for final approval - I'm using LeBaron-Bonney irons but a custom designed covering that is way different then the stock '31.

As a note, your upolsterer might be very happy with you if he can do his work before final paint if he can put it together for ease of disassembly then reassembly after paint. He wont have to worry as much about bumps and scratches to your mega buck BC/CC

My top upholstery guy is me.
I did the 32's top several years back and found it to be a pleasant and easy project.
A Lebaron-Bonney top kit . . . which I've found is what the great majority of trim shops use if you go in and have a top done.
Not too many upholstery guys make a top from scratch nowadays.



Oh, the door problem - I really don't think Henry built them this far off - tho Brookville did, based on my other problems and lack of their QC

I don't think Henry built them that far off either.
I'll be looking for a gennie 30-31 roadster with camera in hand.
And post em when I get em.



C9 - I was doing some more sanding and another item that is mentioned is the body band under the windshield that holds the cowl cover/gas tank down - the top part of the stamping, right side of mine was about 3/8" wider then the left and had to be sectioned to match. If yours is the same, I can explain how I fixed mine - but no digital photos.

That's one I haven't noticed or looked for.
I do know that piece is a bitch to get aligned with the 32 style dash and pre-drilled holes under the dash in the body proper.
Looking from here, it looks like some sanding and touch-up will be required to get rid of the 'installation' scratches.
That piece may be installed prior to body paint if it looks like it will be a problem.

I'll check that piece for width when I get out to the garage today.
Ya got me curious.
I'm in the middle of making my own flanges for the filler neck of the Summit fuel tank I have.
The original ones leak when you fill up.
And to think that I bought this tank to take care of a fuel cell weepage problem at the filler on that.
I'll be making my own tanks for the 31.
Pretty sure I can turn out a tank that doesn't have fuel pouring out of it after a fill-up....

Dave and C9x, It is an honor to chat with you guys. I am not finshed with my writing chore quite yet and need to ge back to the car soon. I just tell myself it is too hot to work in the garage now and that is partly true but I just want to keep my membership in the Forum going while I am mostly inactive. All I did this summer was to get my stock windshield frame filled with glass using the stock rubber gasket from Bratton's Antique parts. The frame is the 2" chopped version but all that was necessary was to trim the gasket. However I have yet to drill the holes for the 2" chopped stanchions (stainless). Anyway here is a picture of my main innovation. If you have to buy new rear bumper brackets they are $158 a pair from Brattons (part no. 24670) and so you have to approach cutting them with care and reverence but they were intended to extend forward quite a long distance and attach to the frame in the channel about 15" in front of the rear axle. With a Brookville tube frame this won't work because of the rear kickout in the frame around the rear pumpkin. You have to call Brookville for the exact place to cut those precious gennie brackets but it is about in half and Brookville then sells you a pair of flame cut brackets for $35 that attach over the top of their frame to two little bolts (5/16") on each side. That looks very weak to me so you can see in the picture the other cut off piece of the gennie bracket can be slightly bent in a vise and reversed to attach as an "under brace" to the gennie bracket. You have to drill a vertical hole through the frame on each side and I used a 7/16" bolt along with one 1/2" bolt to clamp the pieces together. Sometimes some of these simple things give pleasure in the sense of "I did it!" and I think that is a large part of the hot rod attitude of little innovations. I told the guy at Brookville about this but he only seemed slightly interested. At the price of those gennie/repro brackets it was a shame to throw away the front halves! In the picture you can just see the two small 5/16" bolts at the top of the frame covered by the rubber inner tube boot I had to put over the access hole in the floor for the top shock bolt. Someday when I have the car on a rack I plan to spray the underside of the floor with black rattle-can enamel, but I guess I am not going to put a mirror under the chassis in the future once it gets covered with mud splash, just wash off the top and keep the shiny side up!
When I went out to the garage to take the picture I noted that the Bebops '29 doors are smooth along the bottom. The only bead is in the all-in-one floor pan-splash-apron.

Don Shillady
Retired (?) Scientist/teen rodder

Originally Posted by Don Shillady

Dave and C9x, It is an honor to chat with you guys. I am not finshed with my writing chore quite yet and need to ge back to the car soon. I just tell myself it is too hot to work in the garage now and that is partly true but I just want to keep my membership in the Forum going while I am mostly inactive. All I did this summer was to get my stock windshield frame filled with glass using the stock rubber gasket from Bratton's Antique parts. Don Shillady
Retired (?) Scientist/teen rodder

Thanks for the kind words.
I should be rewriting the latest book or be out in the garage while it's still cool (88 degrees F. now).
I can handle up to 100 degrees with the two big fans going in the garage.
Since Monsoon season is tying to roll in, humidity is up so get driven out of the garage earlier than usual.
Then I have to get my afternoon nap in before it gets too late.

I've been getting a lot of little jobs done on the 31, but got distracted a touch when I built the air/oil separator for the 32 and now I'm trying to cure the fuel tank problem with it.

Back to the 31 next week I hope.

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My pal's 29 has bumpers as mentioned.
The gennie body sits on a TCI frame, but I'm not sure how he did the rear bumper.
I'll pop some pics next Saturday night if he shows up for the WhataBurger cruise.
Probably won't see him before that.

Here's a pic of our roadsters - taken at Mugu Rock north of Malibu, south of Oxnard on PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) Juy 5th 2002.

Lebaron Bonney tops on both cars, his roadster is un-chopped and now painted a satin black . . . which looks pretty good . . . I don't know what he was thinking of when he shot the baby poop yellow on the car.
DP90 and I'm guessing the paint was a $$ deal....