Dangeroustoy:, those builders you mentioned, do they have any websites. As i am up here in Canada, i would like to get as much info as i can before i make travel arrangements. The rods i want to build right away are a 69 RS/SS Convertable Camero for the girlfriend and a 57 Chevy Cameo Pick-up(always wanted one of those,there was a guy that had one up here and everytime i entered a show with my acadian he would always have his truck next to me). I always took first.