Thread: Project $ 3 K Is Underway
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03-15-2010 10:09 AM #1
Hey Whiplash,
Dad and Dan are relocating and do not have internet currently so they are not ignoring you to be sure. They should be back in business by the end of the month.
dads scoops came with the adapter from vintage speed. They are rochesters. That whole set up came as a kit from them. www.vintagespeed.com
I believe they are manufacturing the scoops inhouse. If not they can direct you where to get them.
It is like a family around here. Great group of guys and gals
Don Jr
Don Jr.
"Once again I have thoroughly disgusted myself"
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03-22-2010 11:04 PM #2
Hi Mr Blue, thanks for your reply. I looked up vintagespeed web site and it made me rather envious of you people having such neat Hot Rod products so close. Yes, I know with the world wide web and international telephone service and freight companies, the world is getting smaller. Now what bank shall I go and rob....
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03-23-2010 01:54 AM #3
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03-23-2010 06:35 AM #4
I know.................I drool every time I go on that site.
The two deuce set up really made a difference in dads car. It looks tons better and has required very little in the way of adjustments.
Now if I could just win the lotto, I would order 1 of everything on the site! Don Jr
Don Jr.
"Once again I have thoroughly disgusted myself"
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03-25-2010 01:37 PM #5
Truely an awesome read, lots of great info and the banter is very entertaining
Kool is cool
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04-03-2010 06:09 AM #6
how much did the original car build end up costing?
i have to go to work soon and dont have time to read all 219 pages.
thanks!a hot rod is whatever i decide it is. 
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04-03-2010 11:58 AM #7
I just got off the phone with Comcast and finally have my computer back up and running..........what a frustrating ordeal it was, but I feel like I am part of the world again.
Sorry I haven't been on line to be able to answer any questions, but thanks Don for fielding them for me. I owe you a beer.
As for the final cost, I honestly have no idea whatsoever. That isn't me being evasive because I don't mind sharing what I pay for stuff, it is just that I got into a spending frenzy after I started really liking the way the 23 was coming out, so I began to put nicer parts on it and had a bodyshop do the paint and and upholstery shop do the interior. If I had to guess what I had in parts, paint, upholstery, and consumables like sanding discs, etc. I would guess between $ 15,000 and $ 20,000.00.
The reason I mention stuff like sandpaper is because we often forget all those little trips we make to the hardware store or Home Depot that end up being a little bag that cost us $ 100.00. We were just talking recently about all these little "hidden" costs that we didn't plan on, but they have to be factored into the build too if you want to be realistic.
Funny story. I had a guy climbing under and over my 23 one day while I was getting gas and he said "I really like it........I should just drop off $ 10,000.00 and let you build me one." I told him that might get him half way to the parts, but even paying myself a dollar an hour I couldn't build him one for what he was willing to pay. I think he thought I was bs-ing him, but anyone who has played with cars knows the reality of what it takes in time and money to do one.
But thanks for reviving this old thread. It was the most fun I have had on a build, and what made it so much fun was getting to share my progress and failures each night with all of you. The jokes and comments from everyone sure helped too.
DonLast edited by Itoldyouso; 04-03-2010 at 12:00 PM.
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04-03-2010 12:53 PM #8
Don,
Glad to see you up and running. I hope everything settles down for you now.
In response to your post, unless you are a book keeper or accountant you would really be surprised what these things cost when your done.
Glad your back.
Ken
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04-03-2010 02:02 PM #9
Hi Ken...........really happy to be able to chat with you again. Been wondering about what you've been up to. I'll have to go back through 2 months of threads to see what I've missed.
Yep, life should calm down now that we are finally moved in. It's been very interesting the past two months, but actually not that bad. It's funny what you can survive with when you have to, and how you can make a bad situation pretty good by just keeping perspective. Dan loves his new job and the new residence is really a step up from the old one, so life is good.
I got the exhaust system back from the coater yesterday and got it on. That's the good news. But now that the open headers aren't drowning out all the sounds I have a noise in the engine that concerns me. I think that little lack of oil pressure when the galley plug blew out may have caused some damage. I am a little fed up with working on the 27 and at the prospects of having to pull and dismantle the engine all over again, but that is what is going to have to happen I fear. Oh well, it's just a toy I keep reminding myself, so it will get fixed when I feel like looking at it again I guess.
Don
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04-03-2010 02:34 PM #10
hi don,
you dont know me but i am in the middle of my 1st build.
i thought that maybe i could do it for approx $6000
HA!
and yes
i am going dirt cheap and counting welding rods and everything but my time.a hot rod is whatever i decide it is. 
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04-03-2010 03:23 PM #11
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04-04-2010 02:03 AM #12
Welcome back Don. Good to hear most is well! I cringe when I look at what is in my truck so far, and what is yet needed. Maybe that's why I take longer breaks than I should!


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"No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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04-04-2010 04:22 AM #13
a hot rod is whatever i decide it is. 
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04-04-2010 06:43 AM #14
Don - Welcome back! Did you guys move the shop and everything or just your residence? Are there updates on any of your other threads on the '27 or the '48 sedan or Dan's RPU? Just tell us where to look...
Billy zz - I may be a little more obsessive than some of the folks on here, but I can tell you what my cars cost within a few dollars. The coupe in my avatar cost me just over $7600 to build as you see it. Since then I have changed (upgraded) the steering wheel, taillights, and headlights which brings the total to approximately $7800
. In my roadster build (http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30400) I have kept a running total in the text. My goal is to have it on the road for under $4000. It may not be completely finished for that, but should be driveable and street legal. Time will tell...
Jim
Racing! - Because football, basketball, baseball, and golf require only ONE BALL!
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04-04-2010 07:52 PM #15
Billy, thanks for the thread to your hot rod build. I like it, and the Ford engine makes it VERY cool.
Thanks for the welcome home Jim. No, we just moved our residence, the shop is still intact. In fact, now I can tell the story.......the shop was Dan's and my home for the past two months. When he lost his job as property manager he also lost our apartment that was part of his deal. We had 3 weeks to move. We knew he would probably get a new property management job in a short period of time, which also would come with an apartment, so it didn't make sense for us to sign a lease on a new apartment and then have to break it and pay the penalties.
My Son Don offered graciously for us to come with him, but Dan had this crazy idea that we should move into the office of the shop. It is pretty big and we were only using it for storage, so for two weeks Dan and I worked til 2 or 3 am remodeling it. We painted, paneled, laid new carpeting, put in a new A/C unit, new fridge, closets for our clothes, etc. The shop had a bathroom with toilet and sink, so we added a shower stall and water heater and new plumbing. Don and his GF Taylor got us a gas grille and Dan, me, and two of the 3 cats moved into the shop.
(My ex-wife took the female cat as she would have been at the mercy of the two male cats, Chewy and Lucky, they like to wrestle too much and Alto is getting up there in years) We added a couple of futons, and settled in to our new home.
Dan did get a new job 3 or 4 weeks ago and also a new apartment, but the funny thing is, we were in no hurry to move out of the shop. It was actually one of the best times we have had, cooking out on the grille every night and drinking a lot of beer (especially when Don came by
) We both felt sort of sad moving out the other day and into the new apartment, although it is really nice to have internet again. I think Dan and I have some great memories of the time we spent there.........I know I do.
During that time we also got lots of work done on my 27 and his RPU. He is literally ready for primer on the body and bed. He got all the little chores done that he had been putting off and it looks great. We want to epoxy prime it ourselves to make sure every area is coated well before it goes to the body shop for final paint. He is still on the fence for color, as am I on mine.
As for my 27, I got all the little things done to get the motor running and we fired it up for the first time last week. It ran great for about 5 minutes, lots of oil pressure, ran cool, etc. Then Dan saw the oil pressure go to zero. We shut it down right away and found a galley plug had blown out, so I put in screw in plugs, prelubed the engine with a drill again, and fired it up. Oil pressure was back up to 60psi, and all seemed well. Then I installed the exhaust system and once it was no longer running on open headers I could hear a knocking from deep in the engine. I guess the loss of oil pressure did do something, so I have to pull the motor out, tear it down, and figure out what is what. For now I don't even want to look at the d*** thing for a while, so I'll get back on it when I feel differently.
I also got my body back from the fiberglass shop last week. I had them remove 20 years of sins from the body, and modify my firewall to clear the new, bigger engine. He did a fantastic job, and sprayed a whole gallon (3 coats) of Evercoat Slick Sand over it all. Now I can block sand it and get it as good as I can.
Here are some pictures of the body the day I got it back.Last edited by Itoldyouso; 04-04-2010 at 07:59 PM.





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