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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
    It was a test to see who's serious about ANY level of spending cut...................................all those that poo poo'd it failed the test. If it's so insignificant why have you and POTUS made it the center of your mockery for a couple weeks. You have no idea how silly it makes you sound to serious people. I don't know you very well, but I've seen a LOT of POTUS. He won't yield on anything..............it's his way or the hiway...............in his own words when offered compromise...................I won! That's why he can't work with the House.

    Ahhhhhhhhh, a test. I see now.


    OK, how about something near and dear to all of our hearts, oil!

    Mitt Romney told us that he would push hard to get that pipeline from Canada. Independence, he said.

    But what happens in 50, 100 or 150 years? We just extended our dependence on oil and ignored all of the other renewable alternatives out there! Independence from oil is what we need to grow into the future, not independence from middle east oil.

    Gentlemen, what say ye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rod Surfer View Post
    OK, how about something near and dear to all of our hearts, oil! Mitt Romney told us that he would push hard to get that pipeline from Canada. Independence, he said. But what happens in 50, 100 or 150 years? We just extended our dependence on oil and ignored all of the other renewable alternatives out there! Independence from oil is what we need to grow into the future, not independence from middle east oil.

    Gentlemen, what say ye?
    So what type of alternative energy do you believe is viable to stop the use of oil, coal, natural gas and nuclear power, and please be specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rod Surfer View Post


    But what happens in 50, 100 or 150 years? We just extended our dependence on oil and ignored all of the other renewable alternatives out there! Independence from oil is what we need to grow into the future, not independence from middle east oil.

    Gentlemen, what say ye?
    What sayest I?

    Are you assuming that research may now cease? And that there will be no further developments and breakthroughs in the quest for alternate sources of power?

    Are innovations and improvements in methods of utilizing the earth's greatest power source (the sun) to affordable and practical advantage, likely to peter out??

    And in "50, 100 or 150 years"?

    (Incidentally, wind is solar power.)

    Nope.

    I have no doubt. The day will come when the power source we need will manifest itself, and WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE.

    But we gotta live until it does.

    So ramp up the drilling and start laying that pipeline.

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    Thanks Bob, finally an answer, or at least a thoughtful premise to a question about Romney!!!! Really tired of hearing all the "What will Romney do" questions answered by someone saying how bad Obama has messed something up!!!!

    Hard to discredit Romney's success in business, his bottom line answers those questions! My concern with his success is the "at what cost?" part of the question.... Problems of the poor, the terribly high cost of health care, the (again) rising crime rate, rising cost of education and other things just seem to be ignored---is this just another issue with the media only drawing attention to the issues they deem important, or have these issues been ignored? Ask a doctor or lawyer what they pay in malpractice insurance, it'll scare you!

    Whoever wins this election, I just sincerely hope that EVERYONE will respect the decision made by the majority of the voters, and all (Congress included) will pitch in and do their part to actually take some positive action to help improve this country and not just sit and complain about who was elected!!!!! If the people of this country could once again start working together instead of taking sides to resolve issues and problems, the politicians would be forced to either change their ways, or start looking for a new job!!!! We put them there, we can sure as heck send them home!
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    The way I see it if we tap our resourses and use them while we perfect the others well be ahead. If we have electric cars you will need chargers that run on electricity...The company we payed (I think ) $245 million to develop batteries is filing chapter 11, So there goes more of our bucks yep our leader have a grip on things ( OUR WALLETS)
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    HEY SOMEBODY WANT TO HIDE THIS TILL AFTER THE DEBATE ON TUESDAY???

    Jobless claims take big jump in latest week - Economy Watch


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P View Post
    HEY SOMEBODY WANT TO HIDE THIS TILL AFTER THE DEBATE ON TUESDAY???

    Jobless claims take big jump in latest week - Economy Watch
    And this one, too, since the war on terrorism has been won....
    Bangladeshi man held in purported plot to bomb the N.Y. Federal Reserve - The Washington Post
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    Here is another small item since the economy is taking off.
    Welfare spending jumps 32% in four years


    This reminds me of that old joke about lawyers and lips moving, the same one about used car salesmen.
    "President Obama’s attempts to wriggle free from his own words and actions on Libya are making things worse."

    Have I missed the post about how rich Obozo is as well as the assault on him for being that way? Sorry I forgot he is a lefty and it is ok for lefty to be that way. I am sure I will have it right some day.
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    This country runs on oil, coal and natural gas and without those there would be no research and development for any of the alternate energies. The high price we pay for oil just reduces the funds available for the alternate energies. Think about it.

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    Another tidbit on solar cells : current technology utilizes SILVER in their creation. Silver is poised for a huge break out to new highs.
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    Silver is also being used in the medical profession now, as it works as a sterilizing agent on IV ports. I agree investing in silver is not a bad idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stovens View Post
    Silver is also being used in the medical profession now, as it works as a sterilizing agent on IV ports. I agree investing in silver is not a bad idea!
    i was in to vitamin and we took sliver and gold and other minerals in liquid form from Eniva . sliver is very good for killing bad bugs never did it but they say milk last alot longer in a sliver or a sliver coin in the pitcher. i know a guy thats still in the vitamins and minerals . he has taken so much sliver his skin is gray no B.S
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    As for alternative clean energy sources, there seems to be Solar, Wind and water power. The last time I checked Solar cells last anywhere from 15-30 years, and have quite a lot of nasty toxic byproducts from production that have created real problems in China. Solar is also expensive, but will payout over time given some of the newer technologies. Wind is fine, when there is wind and it works, though they are a bit unseamly to look at at the Altimont pass! Water especially harnessed wave power is a great concept, but prohibitedly expensive. So now we must look at Nuclear and coal for additional power needed. Problem with electric powered vehicles is where is the electricity going to come from. At a recent State Power summit, all the power players were calling for manditory electric power vehicles for California. Everybody was for it, lower emissions, lower dependance on fossil fuels, etc., Until a California Pacific Gas and Electric official stood up and said, where are you going to get the electricity to power all of these vehicles? PG&E stated the only way they would support such a measure is if, every electric powered car household had Solar set up to offset the electrical demands to the power grid that already exist.
    There is no quick solution here, and yes we need to start producing alternatives, just be carefull for what you ask for, it may create more problems than solutions.
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    Electric cars have been around a good long time. I have a circa 1800 auto repair manual which shows maintenance on an electric car. Shows how the electric motors switch from series to parallel circuit, and how to change the plates in the glass battery case.

    A couple of points no one who supports electric want to address: one, there is no recycling program in effect for the batteries, and modern batteries are highly toxic. It is going to create huge pollution.

    Two, electric cars don't eliminate pollution, they shift it to the power plant, creating point pollution compared to non point pollution.

    Seems to me we should address the long term problems before establishing alternative power.
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