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To "vote" someone else in office just because.............and that someone else isn't a sure bet,is bad logic.
This statement is going to get people to post,but if you think neither choice are good ones,then don't vote.
We are quick to lay blame,but it is a fact the office of president can't all on his own do what you are suggesting is the result of "the mess" we are in. It takes congress to do that.
The concept of every man is responsible for his own destiny is not really how it works.Talk to Pat or Jerry or me for that matter,to open and run a business it takes more than hard work.Bottom line it takes money.It is like having a huge order and not the machines,labor,or raw materials to fill the order.Who limits that success??. Really doesn't take that much of a imagination to conclude that. To say Obama isn't for the small business and that is why we can't elevate ourselfs just doesn't make sense. It is been money the issue for alot longer than Obama has been in office. A system of have and have nots.

Bob Rich of Rich products told me once it takes a hell of lot money to maintain his position as a multi millionaire because what people expect him to do and much of that he really didn't care about.

i have been in business for myself since 1980. so i know a little about it also. but your defense of a man who has done nothing doesn't hunt around here. he's had his chance and done nothing. why do you believe he needs another 4 years ? i keep hearing this but no one can come up with anything he has done other than shove obama care down our throats . sorry but it is a time for change.
and please come up with something other than bush did it . that has gotten old. and never tell me not to vote. i have 0 use for anyone who doesn't . you dont vote you dont get to bitch .

Originally Posted by 1gary

To "vote" someone else in office just because.............and that someone else isn't a sure bet,is bad logic.
This statement is going to get people to post,but if you think neither choice are good ones,then don't vote.
We are quick to lay blame,but it is a fact the office of president can't all on his own do what you are suggesting is the result of "the mess" we are in. It takes congress to do that.
The concept of every man is responsible for his own destiny is not really how it works.Talk to Pat or Jerry or me for that matter,to open and run a business it takes more than hard work.Bottom line it takes money.It is like having a huge order and not the machines,labor,or raw materials to fill the order.Who limits that success??. Really doesn't take that much of a imagination to conclude that. To say Obama isn't for the small business and that is why we can't elevate ourselfs just doesn't make sense. It is been money the issue for alot longer than Obama has been in office. A system of have and have nots.

obama want to level it all to the have not.s and he will be one of the haves. as for how i conduct my business.what or how i do..or done ..i would thank you to keep my business out of it . as it has nothing to do with this post BUT seeing how your drag me in it . obama has never helped me. what i have built i have done with my two hands and with help of few others he is not on the list.i do vote and i will vote .. and you can bet it will not be for the guy you think is a keeper

Originally Posted by 1gary

To "vote" someone else in office just because.............and that someone else isn't a sure bet,is bad logic.
This statement is going to get people to post,but if you think neither choice are good ones,then don't vote.

I don't mean it to seem that I am in disagreement with everything you say, but the things you bring up just get me passionate enough to respond. It sounds to me like you want to vote along with the majority of voters who are supporting the candidate, no matter who you vote for or his/her party affiliation. While I support the idea of voting across party lines, I will not vote for anyone just because they show the majority of support. Look at how many times the majority of voters have installed a dud. For instance, I voted for Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996, because I thought he would do a better job in Washington. When I stepped into the voting booth, I knew that he didn't have a prayer, but that didn't stop me from voting for the man that I thought could do the job better than the other two.

Originally Posted by 1gary

The concept of every man is responsible for his own destiny is not really how it works.Talk to Pat or Jerry or me for that matter,to open and run a business it takes more than hard work.Bottom line it takes money.It is like having a huge order and not the machines,labor,or raw materials to fill the order.Who limits that success??. Really doesn't take that much of a imagination to conclude that. To say Obama isn't for the small business and that is why we can't elevate ourselfs just doesn't make sense. It is been money the issue for alot longer than Obama has been in office. A system of have and have nots.

Bull Hockey. My ex and I started two companies from scratch in 1979/1980, with no more than a couple hundred bucks in the bank and operated them at a profit of ~$300,000 a year for the next 20+ years, employing an average of 15 people. The only thing that anyone has to do in this country is to get up off his dead ass and make a concerted attempt. Don't misunderstand, we made perhaps a half dozen earlier attempts that failed, but our entreprenurial spirit was unaffected and we persisted until we met with success. I seem to remember that Edison went through over 7,000 filament experiments before he found one that would work in his new light bulb. Very rare is the case where someone gets it right the first time or first few times, but it is possible to create a business from scratch with little or no money in this country and have it make a living for the creator.

Your view that there are haves and have-nots doesn't fly with me. With determination, anyone can be successful in this country.

Originally Posted by techinspector1

I don't mean it to seem that I am in disagreement with everything you say, but the things you bring up just get me passionate enough to respond. It sounds to me like you want to vote along with the majority of voters who are supporting the candidate, no matter who you vote for or his/her party affiliation. While I support the idea of voting across party lines, I will not vote for anyone just because they show the majority of support. Look at how many times the majority of voters have installed a dud. For instance, I voted for Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996, because I thought he would do a better job in Washington. When I stepped into the voting booth, I knew that he didn't have a prayer, but that didn't stop me from voting for the man that I thought could do the job better than the other two.



Bull Hockey. My ex and I started two companies from scratch in 1979/1980, with no more than a couple hundred bucks in the bank and operated them at a profit of ~$300,000 a year for the next 20+ years, employing an average of 15 people. The only thing that anyone has to do in this country is to get up off his dead ass and make a concerted attempt. Don't misunderstand, we made perhaps a half dozen earlier attempts that failed, but our entreprenurial spirit was unaffected and we persisted until we met with success. I seem to remember that Edison went through over 7,000 filament experiments before he found one that would work in his new light bulb. Very rare is the case where someone gets it right the first time or first few times, but it is possible to create a business from scratch with little or no money in this country and have it make a living for the creator.

Your view that there are haves and have-nots doesn't fly with me. With determination, anyone can be successful in this country.

The thing is Richard,the reality is not everyone could do what my partner and I did. It's like telling people,yes there is a Santa Claus.And making people believe everyone can be a self made millionaire is a fairy tail.

Shine-you go on and on about entitlements and welfare. Facts support a huge part of what has gotten this country so far in debt is two wars.It makes me sick to see how bad we are at taking care of our own.Ad's about people here not doing well and right afterwards a ad for a fund for a country off shore. We need to get over ourselfs thinking this is a endless pit for all the troubles in the world.Take care of our people first and foremost.

Jerry-the programs for the ninth ward did not work and as a result opened up jobs for people all over the country,but not really for the residents. The area is still yrs after a mess. Jerry here is a fact,WE walked out on our own people. Yet spent Trillions of dollars outside of our counties boarders. That theory you can teach a man to fish etc,etc,fact is we never brother to teach that man anything except to sell drugs on the street because of our failures to teach kids from those neighborhoods the values and skills to advance themselves.

Oh shine.I forgot to ask you what you expect the office of president to do??. What is your def of the job??. I really can't figure out how to answer you if I don't know.