Thread: Been a couple of weeks, and still having problems with new and improved site.

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Am I reading right that some are seeing popup ads? That should not be the case. There are ads on the site, yes....click on them to support the site. Most everything else is pretty much the same by now. I'm still working out a few little bugs but nothing as far as I'm aware is blocking or otherwise impacting the usefulness of the site.

Also, there's a lot more to use here...so I'm hoping that with a little more time, everyone will get used to some of the minor changes and enjoy the new features.

[QUOTE=Brent Mills;427311

Also, there's a lot more to use here...so I'm hoping that with a little more time, everyone will get used to some of the minor changes and enjoy the new features.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like an answer a politician would give us, Brent. Can I ask WHY the change was made at all? If it wasn't broke, why fix it?


Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Sounds like an answer a politician would give us, Brent. Can I ask WHY the change was made at all? If it wasn't broke, why fix it?


Don

Don,

First, it was running on 7 cylinders, blown head gasket,and severe rod knock......Not quite dead, but working it's way toward a sudden and irreversible death that no amount of electronic patching would fix.

Second, (and this is my personal observation as an end user and not as a moderator) I do realize that you have resisted the change(s) but your recent posts seem far out of character for you.....Just a little too harsh towards Brent compared to the countless days, weeks,months he puts into keeping this place up and running. Again,just a personal observation.

In closing, the changes were needed, as were the updates to the antiquated and soon to be non supported level of forum software. Perhaps Brent can continue to tweak the colors so that it is easier on the eyes (each color choice requires more than you might think to implement), but again, it will take time and guidance (not attacks) in an attempt to make as many users happy as possible.

Here is once again wishing you well.

Sincerely,

Bill S.

Probably the same reason my other site changed its format..These two sites were the same..just different colors...Only,I dont recall being told why they changed it..All I can remember is going on one day,and going..''uggh,what have they done that for''?and then being told that I might have to change my server to view pics,,which I didnt want/need to do..But everything works okay now,so I am finding my way around here the same..Just familiarization..No,I dont really like change either,,but can get used to it...

When the old site would go down for a day or two at a time, people would start a post about it and complain. Brent goes to the work and expense of going to new software that doesn't breakdown for a day or two at a time and people still complain. I'm no computer guy, but it would seem just getting rid of that old and recurring problem makes the new much better. Am i missing something else?

Brent goes to the work and expense of going to new software that doesn't breakdown for a day or two at a time and people still complain.

So you think this will never break down?

I'd bet that not near as often or for as long as the old software did!!!! I'm not a computer guy, if the guys who are say the old stuff was antiquated to the point of being beyond fixing, and soon there would be no support available for it, that's good enough for me!!!! Heck, is anything ever perfect, let alone does anything ever make everyone happy???

The fact remains this is his site and WE are guest He is willing to forgo the expence of keeping it alive .I'm for that ,hell I've gone through 3 computers in the past years and each one is different than the last because the old stuff was out dated. I'm not going to not use it because its different I'm going to get used to it,and learn how to use it.

[QUOTE=mrmustang;427329]Don,

Second, (and this is my personal observation as an end user and not as a moderator) I do realize that you have resisted the change(s) but your recent posts seem far out of character for you.....Just a little too harsh towards Brent compared to the countless days, weeks,months he puts into keeping this place up and running. Again,just a personal observation.



Bill, maybe I did come across a little strong, and I apologize for that. However, I think you would have to admit that the majority of what I have tried to contribute during my time here was toward the betterment of the forum. Possibly I didn't say some things in the most diplomatic way, but I called it as I see it. No matter how I have looked at this new format I think it is not nearly as good as what we had. It is harder to navigate, to post pictures, and the colors are harder to read. I know it has been said we can personalize the appearance, and I have tried that, still with no good outcome IMO.

I also respect and appreciate the countless hours you and Brent put into the forum. How and why you both do it so unselfishly is beyond me. That doesn't negate the fact that all of us on here have our opinions about things. Some of us are just more vocal than others, perhaps.

No disrespect was intended.

Don

"I got to admit", "it's getting better", "a little better all the time".

Don, and others that don't much care for this new design, the way that I've equated this change is really a few ways that made me a bit more accepting. I'll go through a couple:
= Cell phone. I'm not a real early user of those infernal gadgets, but my first one had an on/off button, weighed probably a pound plus and made phone calls and had a voice mail service. My new one - and I got a clunky size so I don't lose it, weighs 3-4 ounces, can text, email, GPS, full computer function, take good pictures, play games and bunch of other things that I don't/wont use. I make calls - period!!
= Televisions and setting them for HD/video/games/PC's (I'm using a 24" TV as a monitor now)
= DVR/TiVo. I still prefer the VHS and now use a DVD player because nothing is done in VHS. We have a DVR that my wife has 'mastered', but I so far don't use as my TV watching is minimal
= PC's. I play around with them but will never understand what/why it happens inside the operating system. Then there is the multi function printer that has replaced the old dot/matrix
= Refrigerators are all electronic, dish washers, ranges...............same and every one is different
= You have a DD computer controlled car - even my '31 has electronics. The speedometer is the "most interesting" so far.
= ATMs that will give you $$ anywhere in the world if you have a number and an account

Look around you and you will see how much more difficult and involved everyday life has become with this electronic gadgetry. Unfortunately, new designs come around and the old ones (last year or maybe the year before is OLD) can no longer be serviced for various reasons - parts, the seller, the developer, etc. Planned (and unplanned obsolescence) drive these changes. Then you wonder why kids are the way they are!!

This site isn't bad, it is more involved and not quite as intuitive and us more 'mature' folks are having some adjustment period. We have too good a place to come to for just talkin'. Brent will, I'm sure continue tweaking to make it a bit easier , and yes, I too would have preferred the old, but------ to survive, the forum has to move on or disappear like many before.

Originally Posted by mrmustang

......the changes were needed, as were the updates to the antiquated and soon to be non supported level of forum software....Bill S.

I've seen this on other smaller forum's for local clubs in the past year or two where everything is fine one day, but the host announces that the software being used is no longer going to function in their environment after some date certain, so the people/clubs subscribing to service are left with two choices - adapt or die. I believe that we're very fortunate that Brent has the knowledge and experience to take a new operating system and make it very nearly mimic the old system, but we all must police our own systems to ensure that they are up to snuff, too, relative to virus protection and spyware that can cause lots of issues on PC's, especially those with the older operating systems and outdated protection. Hopefully we can all get familiar enough with the new bells and whistles to become more comfortable with the system over time.

Bill, thanks for the explanation. It helps to understand that this was not a change just for change, but was driven by the fact that the program being used to drive this forum was not going to be supported in the near future.

Thanks to whomever posted the trick to get the full screen - - - - it almost feels like Christmas now!

i dont see popups or much of anything else like that.the only thing is the colors are a bit hard to read.i think its a bit faster for me now.im on dang dialup so anything faster is good with me.

Change is Change Some people accept it faster and better than others.

I have not been on the forum for a little while as I just switched professional jobs and I'm also the president of a local Car Club. I recently put up a new website for my car club as the old "free" site went under. I get a lot of praise and critiscism about how my website works and is going. I spent countless hours of my time to research build and have something for the 525 members to access. Some of the members just wanted the old site back but that was impossible. The format changed as did the way the format was created.

In time, everyone will get used to the new format and modifications to things like colors can be adjusted. Like I said earlier, some people adapt to change faster than others.... Just sayin!
Jerome