I,too,appreciate the work that must go into a site this size..It doesnt happen very often,as I only log in a couple of times a day usually,,but when I cant get on,it feels like a certain part of my anatomy has been cut off.....Thems the breaks,no big deal,really,,I just go somewhere else for a while..A big thank you for the site though Brent and Bill..its awesome,so are the people on here..