that was a great post bob. everything that you said was true. I have always felt that i was blessed to have found this site and all of the guys on it. It is the only site that i have ever been on that allows me to ask some stupid questions and to give answers that are excepted. I think of all of you as my extended family. That is a rare thing these days as the internet makes it so impersonal some times. yes there has been some bumpy days where we butt heads but it is usually resolved without hard feelings. but all in all i think that as a large group we get along exceptional well. we morn the ones we lose and welcome the new ones to the fold as friends.