Priced a 2010 Honda Goldwing 1800

The wife and I were talking about getting a bike to ride.
I told her if I ride on the street I want a Honda and she agreed with me.
There is a Honda dealer next to the body shop I had our Suburban in to be fixed after my fender bender last week. So we stopped in and checked them out, they were some good folfs in there.
They only come in about 4 colors which I did not know.
Yellow, black white and red is what I was told.
Anyway there are 4 differant stages of a Honda Goldwing.
The first one is real basic, anyway I would want the 3 option.
The 4th has airbags and anti lock brakes, HE! HE! HE!
Anyway they said the would throw in armrest for my wife in the back.
Plus two helmets with the built in intercoms to talk to each other and some fog lights. How much you say??? Just over 27,000!!!!
They told me they would finance me at 5% I told them to let me see if my credit union could do any better and I would talk to them monday.
My credit union did 4.5% before for me I wonder if they still will.
I think my wife is having second thoughts on the 30,000 doller motor bike.
Kurt

get a harley

sounds like a good deal. i like the style of the goldwings.

look at a used one .. those things run forever ..

That's not a bad price with all of the other things. However as stated I would get one a couple years old, there are many out there with LOTS of add-ons. GW's run forever. I bought mine new in 2002 and it still looks brand new and runs perfectly.

Although, in my opinion I would save my money on the level three unless you just wanted the ABS. Ok so you get a built in nav system, much cheaper to get a garmin and plug it in. You can get the level 1 for about 20K then add what you want. But that's just me and my thoughts. Never ridden an ABS bike, but I hear they are pretty nice.

gassersrule I have got lots of freinds that have Harleys and they are allways
beaking down and having to be towe'd in home from far off places.
I had some freinds that are all in Specail Forces and take long bike rides around Florida and they all kept breaking down. A few years ago they all started buying Honda's because a Head Harley Mech told them that Harley's are just not made for that much road time and they would be happier on Honda's. Now they are all very happy with almost no problems at all. This will be for me and my wife to cruz or putt around on and I want a nice comfertable ride with no problems or the wife won't want to go.
Hey Mr. Chips thanks for the advise the stage 3 like I want does not have ABS brakes or the air bags. I want to get everything that I like up front so I don't have to search for it later and it looks good, not like a add on. The only other thing that I would want is their built in CB so I could talk to all my trucker freinds since I've been a trucker for about 30 years.
Kurt

It makes you wonder how you could buy a couple cars for the same price as a two wheel, two cylinder, two passenger vehicle!!!

Just in weight alone that's ten times the materials! What is so much harder about making bikes. (The answer is "Nothing".)

It's not my nickle, but I'm just askin'. :-)

Hotrodpaint; I beleive that the Honda Goldwing 1800 is 6 cylinders.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Kurt

Ooops! You are right. :-)

I know what you mean though, Hotrodpaint.
I have a project I have been working on for years and I am still not finished with because of health issues. I am just looking for some fun time when I am feeling good
enough to take a ride. Though I have a super sharp 07 Mustang GT thats all decked out
its a five speed and just kills my bad knees to get in and out plus all the shifting.
It's only got 7,000 miles on it now, but the wife drives it once in a while to help keep it running. Kurt

I like all things two wheels, have for many many years. I don't care what brand someone rides as long as they are happy with it. I will certainly NEVER get into a discussion over which bike is best. The best bike on the market in my opinion is the one that makes you happy. I can't count the number of motorcycles I have had over the years, everything from dirt, to sport, cruiser, tour, sport tour......you name it. Each have their degree of fun. However if you want a bike that handles like a sport bike, has the comfort of your easy chair, accelrates like a rocket and keeps momma grinnin while she reads her book, then you will not find a better fit than the wing hands down. The only twothat I cannot compare it to are the BMW KLT1200 and the new Victory Tourer. I have heard the BMW is top heavy as well. Anyway, if you get a wing and you plan on logging some miles, the wing is it. It really takes no time at all to forget it is as big as it is.
Vara4, I am pretty sure that level three wings are ABS, Level four has airbags. But you may be able to get a 3 without ABS. Check with Honda Directline in FL, great prices. Also get as much as you can afford, I just could not see paying 500.00 for a CB radio and Nav was not an option when I bought mine. I can see where Nav would be good, but I am fine with taking the one out of the car and using it. You can get the setup so that you can hear the GPS through your helmet also. And if it breaks it is way cheaper to repair. But that's me.....LOL Enjoy whatever you get.

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Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT

It makes you wonder how you could buy a couple cars for the same price as a two wheel, two cylinder, two passenger vehicle!!!

Just in weight alone that's ten times the materials! What is so much harder about making bikes. (The answer is "Nothing".)

It's not my nickle, but I'm just askin'. :-)

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Honda is just trying to recover their cost in the Goldwing "frame recall" a few years back. They are still "The Best" touring bike IMO.

Many things to consider in the purchase of any big ticket motorcycle.
1) purchase price less trade in, or resale value, plus service costs are the true cost of ownership.
2) access to serviceing dealerships "on the road" cannot be overstated if your going to be traveling interstate.
3) replacement parts program
4) technical service backup to the dealer from the manufacturer is important to get you back on the road.

Honda, Kawasaki are very good (as are most Japanese brands) on the above.

Victory fails in all above areas.


As a motorcycle rider, and a service manager in a motorcycle dealership, I will tell you that you cannot compare a motorcycle to a car, in cost of transporation. The car will win everytime. You might convince your wife that it's a good investment. But a $200+ rear tire last's only 3 to 5000 miles on a performance bike and some under 30 yer old riders pay over $3000 per year to insure a $10K bike.

It's all about the wind in your hair and bugs in your teeth. Motorcycles are the most fun you can have "with your pants on". The cost to have fun is not always cheap. Just like any racer will tell you "you always want to go faster/quicker".

I know it's nice to get new, but have you checked CraigsList?? Here's one in your area, '06 and 9200 miles, which I would think is pretty low?? $13500 asking price is 1/2 your new cost??

guess id rather spend my money in my home country. oh well have fun on whatever you decide to ride. its all fun anyway

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Originally Posted by vara4

I know what you mean though, Hotrodpaint.
I have a project I have been working on for years and I am still not finished with because of health issues. I am just looking for some fun time when I am feeling good
enough to take a ride. Though I have a super sharp 07 Mustang GT thats all decked out
its a five speed and just kills my bad knees to get in and out plus all the shifting.
It's only got 7,000 miles on it now, but the wife drives it once in a while to help keep it running. Kurt

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Hey,Kurt..Do ya want to sell the Mustang??Got a friend down here who is looking for something like that for his wife..What color??

my next door neighbor has a goldwing, another friend has one....
the Capt I'm working with right now has a goldwing with 100k miles on it.
He recently hit a deer at 50mph around a corner and walked away from it. He actually drove the bike the 400miles home.

All three of these people (especially the last one) are fanatics.
These are really excellent pieces of machinery.

Just the same, buy used.... the type of person that owns a Goldwing is not the type that doesn't maintain or treats the bike like crap, etc etc.
Also, I don't know if this helps.... but the guy that hit the deer, the Insurance company sent him over $8k to repair the bike, and the damage was all cosmetic, so the value is noted by more than just the Dealerships :-)


Drew

Well Thanks for the offer Lamin8r; My uncle has offered too.
I actually got a great deal on it when I bought it.
Some guy specail ordered it for car museum in 2006 and it's a 2007.
Anyway he had it in there and found out that they Had the Mustang Salean's
down here in Brandon Florida and trailered it down here with less then 300 miles on it.
He had all the goodies installed at the tune of about $36,000 I got it for less then $24,000. I found some old style looking rear window luvers had them paint and put them on. Those really make it stand out to me. I have had atleast 50 people trying to buy it from me. It is grabber Orange with two wide racing stripes. It's only got the 283 in it but that is all it needs, Beleive you me it's plenty fast for the wife and she loves it.
Here are some photo's just scroll down after you click on the link below.
Kurt
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kurtvara/page6/
Page 2 of the Photo's also has a couple more photo's of engine compartment and inside of the car.

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Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

guess id rather spend my money in my home country. oh well have fun on whatever you decide to ride. its all fun anyway

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Where's your home country?

Honda Goldwings are made (assembled anyway) in Ohio, by Americans.

Harleys are assembled from parts sourced all over the world for this US market. They also have Harley factory's building their export bikes offshore for export markets, which take away US jobs.

Being an "out of work guy" myself, I can appreciate the Buy American position, but Motorcycles don't make for a good comparision example. It's not a simple as just saying Buy American.

Sorry for duplicate post.

Sorry for the duplicate post.

I know where he is comming from and I agree for the most part.
All of my Cars and Trucks are American made.
When I was a Kid I drove a 73 VW bug but it was very undependable,
so I got rid of it and started driving Dodges.
Harley's are very Undependable for long cruz's to me,
So I want the Cadillac of bikes, if I even end up getting it.
The wife and I can't be broke down on the side of the road
some place that ain't safe for her or me.
Safety First RIGHT!!!
Kurt

Sorry John - Gold Wings are now made in Japan.

Honda closed their Gold Wing plant in Marysville, Ohio July 30th, 2009. All Gold Wings – along with just about every other two-wheeler from Honda – are currently imported from Japan. The plant was huge - 330,000 square-feet and assembled the Gold Wing since 1981. It was the first Honda manufacturing facility in America and a million Honda Gold Wing motorcycles were made on that assembly line. Honda employed a lot of Americans, but alas – Honda could not justify the wages and benefits associated with assembly of the bikes in this country so moved back to Japan. Its business, i.e., loyalty is to their parent company.

Harley builds Softail and Touring models in York PA. Sportsters, Dynas and V-Rods models are built in Kansas City Missouri. Harley’s corporate offices are in Milwaukee as are two engine plants. Harley manufactures accessories such as sidecars and custom items in a factory in Tomahawk, Wisconsin.

Some of Harley’s minor components are made overseas (mostly electronics). Everything else is made and assembled in the United States.
According to Harley’s media folks,

“Harley-Davidson has announced the build of a second assembly plant ever outside the United States in India. The "complete knock down" plant or CKD is expected to be up and running in the northern Indian state of Haryana in first half of 2011. Parts made in America will be put together for the Indian market in Haryana. India is the second fastest growing two-wheeler market in the world behind China. More than 10 million two-wheelers were sold in India in the 2009-2010 fiscal year. Beyond the obvious market potential there is another major reason Harley-Davidson is building an assembly plant in India -- to bring down India's import duties which right now are so high Indian consumers pay double for fully assembled imported vehicles. Exporting just the parts to India lowers the import duty tariffs by around 80 percent.”

Interestingly enough – I always “hear about” how Harley’s are “always in the shop” – never had the problem with mine and I ride with a lot of guys that must be lucky too because their bikes always seem to run just fine – some put on 25K miles a year – must just take good care of them in terms of oil changes and keeping things maintained.. Interestingly enough, last big ride I took where there was a broken bike happened to be a BMW that just quit.

Love what you ride – it’s really true what is said regarding Harley’s, “if I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand.” I know guys with just about every kind of bike there is, but I’m a Harley guy because nothing has every come close to the sound, feel and all encompassing experience that Harley is for me. And I've never met a finer bunch of men and women - they'll just do anything for another rider. Just sayin…

Regards All,
Glenn

Kurt,nice car,,My friends wife wants one,to park next to his 69...:D
As far as Goldwings go,we have friends a few miles from us who own a goldwing,and his wife has a goldwing trike..This is her second trike,,they also went to America earlier this year for a Goldwing owners rally and rode across to the East Coast as well..:cool:
Just read your post Glenn,I dont have a bike,but have always had friends,and family[Lyndas brother]who have Harleys,just love the sound,and,like you,dont know too many people who have had problems with them,,although when Lyndas bro bought the one he has now,he just found out why it was cheap..The last owner was very hard on it,,didnt service it..

the money still goes home to the japs!:mad:

Thanks lamin8r; Harley's deffinatly have a big following down her in Florida.
And I have plenty of good friends that ride them, and I have even stopped from time to time to help a few out. I mean we have the big Daytona thing down here every year.
I have been driving Florida roads for close to 30 years in a big truck and I have seen alot of stuff broke down and I have never not once seen a broke down Goldwing on the side of the road. And I have seen hundreds of them on the highways around Florida.
I don't want to step on toe's but I am just saying what I have seen first hand over the years here. Kurt

money might go back to japan, but the computer your using was also made there.

Harleys are cool bikes, but they do not make a bike comparable to the goldwing.. Harleys are not smooth running, that's much of what makes them cool, but it's also a big reason on why I would say there no comparison to a goldwing..

think about it this way. dealers are not given bikes/ vehicles to sell. they have to maintain there inventory at there own cost.. the bike you buy will support that dealership. they are the 1's supporting japan

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Originally Posted by glennsexton

Love what you ride – it’s really true what is said regarding Harley’s, “if I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand.” I know guys with just about every kind of bike there is, but I’m a Harley guy because nothing has every come close to the sound, feel and all encompassing experience that Harley is for me. And I've never met a finer bunch of men and women - they'll just do anything for another rider. Just sayin…

Regards All,
Glenn

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Glenn, Thank you for the update on the Ohio plant. It's another sad statement of whats occuring in the motorcycle industry. Touring (as in Goldwings) bikes are a relatively small segment of the entire motorcycle market. The Cruiser segment models were a huge part of the production of the Ohio Honda plant. The M/C production closure ( I believe the plant was converted to more car production?) will most likely prove to be a good business choice on Honda's part. They are forcasting 2012 to to continue to be a down year in M/C sales. They feel that small displacement (as in cheap to buy) transportation models, will see the first sales returns in the indusrty recovery. They predict Cruisers to be last to recover since they are mostly purchased as toys, not for serious transportation.

We both completely agree that you should ride what makes you feel good. Every major company makes a good motorcycle today. Arguing about brands is like saying Blonds "are better", than Redheads. Many say that Harley Davidson is a religion and not just a motorcycle, and I agree. You will never get me to argue with someone's religion.

Besides.......The Sport bike riders need to have the slow moving objects in the roadway to make their rides fun. They look at the Harley's as Pylon's in the roadway.

LOL. It's all fun
Happy Holidays

A basic Harley Bagger will start around 17,500.00. They are quite reliable these days and a very nice ride, handle like a dream. Even a upscale one will be less than 30k!

Yup - I've had a few of the sport bikes blow past me while I'm cruzin at 50-60. Make me feel like I'm standing still. Tough to out run the Motorola in the State Troopers car though:LOL::LOL:

Kurt, there is one used Goldwing on our local Craigslist at about half that figure, and it is only a couple years old.

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/mcy/2121940693.html

Don

the new harleys are all fuel injected i am split on that. i prefer a carb anyday. but there are getting to be very nice bikes.

my dads 06 sporty has 15k miles on it only thing ever to go wrong was a snapped drive belt. drove it all the way to sturgis and back no problems. cept the weather:eek:

i am indeed old fashioned i look at airbags and abs on a bike, as a sissy bike:LOL: but if your riding your having fun, and thats what counts aint it?

call me crazy i do like some jap bikes like the suzuki gsxr's BUT if harley made a sport bike, which they did but hey the only american sport bike company got the axe, buell. and they were my favorite.

if i was to buy a bike tomorrow id hunt down a buell:cool:

Yep gassersrule: My night driver used to ride a Buell.
I don't know of him having any problems with that,
bit it reminded me more of rice burner then a Harley.
Just not my idea of a touring bike.
Kurt