Mooneye - I guess that you have a problem here, for which, if I had anything to do with it, I'll apologize. It's really too bad that you feel that way as there is a bunch of info and a lot of great guys here. As far as newbe (newbies??) well, regardless of whatever they do, they have to feel comfortable posting plus they do have to make an effort. We can't read their minds or know if they are upset. A clique - join any social club you can attend personally. It's not a clique, it's who you feel comfortable with there as well. As far as being upset by another member - well that too is normal. There are folks here that have PO'd me - even you have tried in the distant past. Again, an answer to a statement is sometimes based on a previous statement that a person has felt is downright wrong, personal or whatever. Grow a thicker skin!! I did pretty quickly when I got involved in on-line forums. It's unfortunate that most don't know each other in a face to face relationship but the anonymity of computerized long distance communications plus the fact that most of us use screen names takes away a lot of that personable good will to each other. As you can see, we have folks from all over the US, Europe, New Zealand, South America and Australia. And we do seem to communicate pretty well most of the time. Personal writing skills - some can do well, others don't. No big deal. I used to manage an engineering group - they had some of the worst writing skills - ever!!

Now, as far as age goes, I know that I'm significantly older then your 49. Drama - I guess you perceive that - I don't see any. Being welcomed here - well I for sure don't run the forum, but I have yet to see you or anyone else unwelcome. If I don't agree with you or any one else, I'll either tell you or stop posting to that thread.

This thread - Don, thanks for starting it now. You seem to have brought out lots of quiet folks who maybe wont be so quiet later