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I am here everyday at some point although not always logged on, I read more than I post only because I know little, don`t want to sound to silly given my age but still support everybody here, I`m only involved in one other site and spend less time there than I do here, working 12 hr shifts 6-days a week and the honeydo`s just keep rolling in, I `m retiring in 9 months maybe then I`ll become the post whore....:D
I don't have the computer time anymore since changing shifts at work. I'm only on the computer about 1 hour total a day and it's usually 15 minutes here and there. Wish I could post more and read more. Oh well, that's the way life is right now!
I'm just responding cause you shamed me into it **)
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Like you, I have posted on a few threads that immediately "died.":( I don't have a lot to offer in most cases so I just don't post. Never was much for "rah rah" posting. Most of my posts have been jokes that don't require or expect an answer. I think that posters should look more at the number of visits than the number of replys if they are trying to judge interest. (Unless they have asked a question and are waiting for help.)Quote:
Originally Posted by 65ny
Nonetheless, I visit regularly, read most posts and thoroughly enjoy the site. I'm just glad that you guys (and gals) share your stories, builds and pictures so that I can continue enjoying and learning.:)
Don, I don't know about my "caliber" :-) ... but when it comes to painting, I am somewhat of a dinosaur. I have arrived at my materials choices, and routine, by a process of elimination. I don't like to spend a lot of time and expense on things that have not proven themselves to be necessary.... but I insist on those things that do make a difference. This approach gives me the confidence to guarantee the work indefinately... but not add unnecessary cost to the jobs, which might cause "price driven" customers to go elsewhere. As a result, I have been able to work steady, even in an economy like we have right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
My approach does not sit well with todays typical painter. My feeling is that they overthink much of the process, include every trick-of- the-week product or technique, and as a result spend extra time and money on things that I have not found to be of any real value. Whenever I have voiced this opinion, I come under heavy criticism from others... so I would rather not start another debate. ...but thanks for the compliment. :-)
Well guys,awesome replies to Don's (post whore) first post here and so happy to see some replies from guys whose names I havn't seen before,well done. And yes I agree with those that mentioned work and family commitments come first,its is a fine balancing act thats for sure,and I would think that Family would come first in everybodies book,so very important as we all have such a short life here on earth that family bonding is so important for our future generations.
I also would like to think that nobody here will judge one if what they may of written or asked seems to be stupid as I know that some times my brain can't tell my fingers the exact right words to type like now.:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Ditto. If I have something constructive to post, I will, otherwise I look and read.Quote:
Originally Posted by 53 Willys
Aaaaaa-the silent majority.Yes it is a issue on all forums.This one not being exempt.But I served as a Admin on a forum for two yrs and "some posts" I did wish where never posted by members.
I just think this site has many topics covered very well.You know the minute you think you know it all,your dead wrong.So I believe these forums act as a huge learning tool.That is if your willing to learn new things.
When guys post knowledge on a topic,we all benefit.It ant quantity,but the quality of the posts that seems to be the trait of this site.
I post when I believe I have value to add, which is not too often. I have evolved to not posting so much detail on my build thread, because as a first time builder the things that are meaningfuil to me are trivial to the experienced builders. I don't jump on every new member intro with a big welcome, as I have not been here long enough to be "inner circle" welcoming others to the fold, and I don't want to be perceived as a WalMart greeter for CHR ;).
Hi all long time no speak, today is the day. This post is right up my alley, as I sometimes sat on the end of the person Don is speaking of. There are a lot of super nice people here with a wealth of knowledge. But this and many other sites are really just clicks of people. Kinda like high school, either your in or your out of the loop. You may not see it, but if you are not in the click, you see it. Just for an example Ken said he usually does not respond as he is not good at writing. This is not true, you respond when everyone of your click group friends start a thread. Whether it be small talk cutting up, or an answer to the car question, your writing is very good. Now this is not just you, you are only my example. IC2 phrased it nicely, (QUOTE IC2,Again, it looks as though the core group has posted) Nice name for the select few, core group.
A lot of newbs get just swept under the car mat, because maybe people are just not wanting to connect to the newbes concerns. Newbes come here searching for advice because they are at a wits end, and after reading for a few weeks they get the nerve up to ask a question. And a lot of people say strike 1, newbe, strike 2, stupid question, strike 3, hes just got a wore out junk camaro, strike 4, Don or Tech posted a better deal over here. That was usually the ones I responded to were the ones that sat all day and no one responded to. Man I caught crap from a couple people here constantly for poor spelling, and bad punctuation. WHO CARES, its a hot rod site not a jr high class. I even had a member here call me stupid once, no one came to my aid. I guatantee 85% of the regulars here are smarter then me, but I came here to look at car stuff and unwind from the daily grind, not get bitsh slapped for poor spelling.
I just consideder this site as a wash and gave up trying to fit in, like beating a dead horse, and I beat that horse for a long time. I will be 49 here in a couple months and just dont want to deal with drama and trying to get someone to at least acknowledge my presence with a response. So from a perspective of the ignored, theres how we see it. So go ahead and get your laugh, toss out your well we never do that, check my spelling, and accept that this may be true. Its like a club and a school function, either your in or your out. Like I said there are a lot of great people here and I still read a lot here, I just am not welcome as a true friend here, and I am O.K. with that. I would help you if you were stranded, thats just the way I roll. So take care all those who were alright with me, and those that were not, you know what you can do.
If your concern for this post is figure how to work with new members on board things will have to change here and open up to a more user friendly atmosphere. I am back editing this as I was looking for the newbe unanswered question of the day. To prove my case in point, Well I found 3 stayed all day no acknowledgement. One was 2 days old, not one reply, not a rocket scientist question, basic generic stuff. I think sometimes that some of you think you are just above the person asking the question that you are not going to give then the time of day. And dont bother with the newbe, I answered his question, not as good as some of you could, but at least I did it. Branch out, and be cool to everyone, you were once a newbe too.!!!!!!!
And yes I will come back to disscuss this if anyone feels the need to open your mind a bit.
Mooneye - I guess that you have a problem here, for which, if I had anything to do with it, I'll apologize. It's really too bad that you feel that way as there is a bunch of info and a lot of great guys here. As far as newbe (newbies??) well, regardless of whatever they do, they have to feel comfortable posting plus they do have to make an effort. We can't read their minds or know if they are upset. A clique - join any social club you can attend personally. It's not a clique, it's who you feel comfortable with there as well. As far as being upset by another member - well that too is normal. There are folks here that have PO'd me - even you have tried in the distant past. Again, an answer to a statement is sometimes based on a previous statement that a person has felt is downright wrong, personal or whatever. Grow a thicker skin!! I did pretty quickly when I got involved in on-line forums. It's unfortunate that most don't know each other in a face to face relationship but the anonymity of computerized long distance communications plus the fact that most of us use screen names takes away a lot of that personable good will to each other. As you can see, we have folks from all over the US, Europe, New Zealand, South America and Australia. And we do seem to communicate pretty well most of the time. Personal writing skills - some can do well, others don't. No big deal. I used to manage an engineering group - they had some of the worst writing skills - ever!!
Now, as far as age goes, I know that I'm significantly older then your 49. Drama - I guess you perceive that - I don't see any. Being welcomed here - well I for sure don't run the forum, but I have yet to see you or anyone else unwelcome. If I don't agree with you or any one else, I'll either tell you or stop posting to that thread.
This thread - Don, thanks for starting it now. You seem to have brought out lots of quiet folks who maybe wont be so quiet later
well i should of taken this post serious .ok so i will.i post on here maybe way way to much .as for a hog well if thats what someone thinks about me that fine .many in my life have been there when i neede help .i am just trying to pay some of it back .help others some things i may post on. this is the stuff i doing in my life now .not what i did. much like painting or body work for many years. i am not a strong speller .so i not going to get in depth post and pull and past a bunch of stuff off other spots from me . i am not that hot with the computer. there have been some on hear that cry about the spelling deal.. one guy did call me out on my very poor spelling. maybe he needed to feel better then me. so he had to take a poke fine ok .as for the click never have never will be .if i post some thing you like it fine if not fine . as for posting on that i did on any of my cars or builds for others . i may never. as my stuff are about as far has i am ever going on them . now i am building/machine engines day in day out as long as i can stand on a cement floor for others and machine parts this takes all my time now. so i may post on a engine build . as for how i post? i try to think about how it may come off .. but what you read is about how i talk with better spelling so if you do not like me on here .you may not care much for me in the flesh and that fine with me :3dSMILE:
Wow, I never expected this thread to bring out so many folks we don't hear from very often...........thank you all for taking the time to respond.
Mooneye, you bring out some very good points. Sorry if some things have not set well with you in the past, I think if you would have mentioned them at the time those issues could have been put to bed right then and there. You are right about no one should criticize anyone else for their grammar or writing skills. This site is about cars and is not an English class. I was busy reading the little books hidden in my school books and missed a lot of the skills I could really use today. :o
You also bring out another good point about how a newbe can be ignored some times. I have seen this myself and try to post something so the thread will go back to the top where others will see it and hopefully respond. Some of the problems are also the fault of the newbe. We see so many times where a new poster will ask for help with a problem, but he/she provides so little info that any suggestions we might have are going to be pure guesswork. Another problem is that some newbes post a question and then never come back or respond to what we have said. We see this all the time where someone posts once and then disappears.
Give the forum another chance Mooneye, and if something happens that you don't care for, just speak up and let us know. We're all big boys here (well, except for Barb :D) so we can take it and maybe need to hear it.
Don
About the spelling and punctuation
I was sick during the 7th grade and missed a lot with English and never seemed to catch up. I have a problem with punctuation and grammar but I do the best I can. I can spot mistakes in the news media so we are not perfect. Say it the best you can and let it go. If people do not understand they can ask how you meant it or figure it out.
I went into the Army when I was 17 years old some of the smart guys found ways to stay out. I don’t judge them.
I have a big college dictionary next to my computer and sometimes I will look up the correct spelling, sometimes not. I’m a talker in person and can talk for hours about nothing (like Jerry Seinfeld’s show about nothing). If I feel comfortable with a person I don’t have to worry if they are grading me. I have been keeping a daily journal for almost ten years. My daughter the English major wanted me to write so the grandkids would know a little about me when they get older and I’m gone. Even writing every day still does not make up for what I lost in School. I wish I had tried harder because you are judged by the way you speak.
I like this site and the way people have the same interest.
I don’t feel like I’m being judged even though there are some very smart people on here. If a person has the brains they are very fortunate but if they use them to put other people down then they have a lot more to learn in life then they think.
Richard