Thread: God Bless Gen. McChrystal

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The Prez should be reading the battle plan, not rolling stone!!!!

The General knows he needs 50,000 more troops right NOW to continue this war and he knows that by the 4 -6 months Prez will take to think about it we will be defeated-----

You got that Exactly right, Jerry.
Kurt

A friend sent this to me, it's a good read.

Chilling Letter from Proctor & Gamble to Obama


Who would have thought, and yet many are thinking it.




By Lou Pritchett, Procter & Gamble

A LETTER FROM A PROCTER AND GAMBLE EXECUTIVE TO
THE PRESIDENT*

THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE MOST CHILLING

Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America 's true living legends- an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management.. Lou changed the way America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as "partnering."

Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.

AN OPEN LETTER TO
PRESIDENT OBAMA

Dear President Obama:

You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike
Any of the others, you truly scare me.

You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.


You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive
Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no
Visible signs of support.

You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth
Growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.

You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.

You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus
Don't understand it at its core.

You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.

You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned
Yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to
Publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..

You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America '
Crowd and deliver this message abroad.

You scare me because you want to change America to a European style
Country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.

You scare me because you want to replace our health care system
With a government controlled one.

You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly
Capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.

You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose
That lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of
Living in the world.

You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics
Against certain banks and corporations.

You scare me because your own political party shrinks from
Challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider
Opposing points of view from intelligent people.

You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both
Omnipotent and omniscient.

You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything
You do.

You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the
Limbaugh's, Hannitys, O'Reillys and Becks who offer opposing,
Conservative points of view.

You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.

Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will
Probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.

Lou Pritchett
*
*
This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it.
Big surprise. Since it hit the Internet, however, it has had over
500,000 hits. Keep it going. All that is necessary for evil to succeed
Is that good men do nothing.. It's happening right now.*

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp

Lou,PLEASE run in 2012 !

Originally Posted by Stu Cool

With 24 years military service, and rank of Chief Master Sergeant (E9) I have known a few generals. Most have had great concern for the people serving under them and respect for the people above them. One of the rules all military men and women must observe is respect for their superiors, the position if not the person. I have also learned that you have an obligation to speak up to your superiors if you disagree with them. This should be done in confidence, if after listening to you, your superiors choose a different path, legal of course, then you are obligated to make their decision your decision. You do not run them down in public nor to your troops. If you are not willing to do that, then you need to find a new job. Whether he was right or wrong, Gen McChrystal screwed up by saying what he did in public and really gave the president no choice.

Pat

I'm probably one ot the most anti-war, anti-government, anti most everything that interferes with my life.... But I do remember from my time in service that this post from Pat is how a real soldier behaves, and a general is nothing more or less then a soldier, right?????

If you were a VP at Chebby and went around telling everyone that Ford was a better company and had a better car they'd fire yer butt, too!!!!!!

But of course, like everything else, it just becomes another political issue and everyone lines up behind their favorite party, CNN or FOX!!!!!!

But if you found out that all the chevys were gonna be crushed because of something wrong with them, would it then be wrong to say something if your in charge of the assembly line. I don't want to see that happen to our soldiers.
Kurt

I guess this is why people don't discuss politic's.
I am all for our soldiers, and the general is one of our soldiers.
God bless them all.

This is from one of our local stations and in response to their son's death in Afghanistan last week:

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S1623848.shtml?cat=300

These folk are sure not an Obamanation supporter (as are most of our North Country folks here in NY State)

[QUOTE=Dave Severson;390498]I'm probably one ot the most anti-war, anti-government, anti most everything that interferes with my life.... But I do remember from my time in service that this post from Pat is how a real soldier behaves, and a general is nothing more or less then a soldier, right?????

I agree with most of the comments but I think this is wrong.

"A general is nothing more or less then a soldier, right?????”

Dave, everyone is entailed to their opinions but to say a General, is nothing more or less then a Solider, in my opinion is wrong. I spent 3 years in the Army; my deceased brother was in the Army for 6 years the last year was spent in Viet Nam. I know you were in Viet Nam and you deserve respect like everyone who has ever spent time in the service and especially war. I talked to a WW2 veteran yesterday when he was taking me to the pre-op for yet another surgery, I asked if he still knew his serial number he went right into US…….. I gave him my Ra……. number we talked about how that is one number you will never forget he was 82 years old volunteering at the Hospital. Dave when you say a General is more or less just a Solider you’re not giving due respect for them devoting their career's in the Armed Forces. I know I couldn’t have spent that much time in could you? You must not or you would have stayed. I know you were injured as well as my brother in-law. My brother in-law passed away this past November he was disabled but the complications from Agent Orange caused his death.

Obama could not or would not wear the flag on his lapel. Was that a form of insubordination or disrespect? A person that has no leadership qualities should not be the Chief. He did not spend one day in the Military to even know what the roles of ranking personnel duties are. I hear a lot of I this and I that but includes us or we when he says we have to tighten our belts and make sacrifices and we have a tough battle ahead of us. One person said you don't get to be a General by not being a smart person but we have been shown that a person can be President by not having the Military knowledge.

I have a Nephew that is getting reading to come home after his third time in Iraq his rank is a Colonel and he has been in the service for 18 years. Not everyone is qualified to give so much. I knew the chain of command and I respected it. But I don’t respect someone who has no expertise over the experience. The Presidents office was bought the General paid his dues for his position.


If this portion is construed as political and needs to be deleted I could or the Moderator could. I wasn’t trying to go too far but if I did I could get it off.


I believe his main campaign promise was to get us out of war. He spends money left and right when he should be creating jobs like the WPA or anything to give people pride to make money instead of continuing to extend unemployment. He said he was one who did not vote for war on his campaign trail, how far has that come? My self I think a commander in Chief should have some back grown in the Military before sending troops anywhere.

In a War Country where people had no money, my Niece was in the Army and was guarding Iraqi civilians to empty water bottlers with expiration just to give them a job to make money. There could there be jobs where people could get paid. They could pick up trash on the road ways, I could think of several things that people could be paid for instead of feeling like they were taking a hand out after their jobs were done away with.

Richard

IC2 I read the story from your link, it's a sad thing.

My opinion would be to restart the draft bring in another 500 thousand or a million to get it over. There are so many people that do not have relatives over there they do not even have a clue to what is going on. There are so many people out of work in this Country that could use the money and make an all effort just like WW1 and WW2.

Richard

The bottom line is that this "war" can never be won, by anyone. It has been going on for centuries, for reasons none of us will understand. The logic of the combatants is so deeply entrenched in "religion" that they will go to any end to meet their goals.........whatever those might be.

If the Russians, who play by none of the politically correct rules we are shackled by, left with their tails between their legs, what hope is there for us to achieve "peace" in that area? It is like trying to maintain law and order in a Ghetto, all you can hope to do is keep somewhat of a lid on things to keep it from getting way out of hand.

In the mid Eastern countries there is no clear cut description of who the enemy is...........it can be Women, Kids, or the guy who was your supporter yesterday. We've all seen the images of them cheering for us one day and burning the American flag the next.

Don

I don't think it's necessary to run down and sign up but they could call every able bodied they could get to help get it over with.

I’m 63, getting close to 64 I’ve have had so many injuries many, many surgeries even had one yesterday, and I found out I have an abnormality from the EKG. I would go but they would have to replace my left knee, my right elbow, and one more radical back surgery and treat my vertigo. The first time I went I got $63 per Month.

I'm sure they could help with your firing, I had never touched a weapon before I went in but they had me pretty good even had me on a shooting team, that was with a 45 now I use a 9mm.

Richard

I agree with you Don, if the Russians couldn't do it and they play by what ever rules they want then how could we do any better. I say go all out or get out. If we could stop having our Soldiers killed in a war we cannot win then get them out. It didn’t seem to hurt Russia from pulling out of Afghanistan.

Richard

well i not happy about us in afghanistan BUT.. if were there we should not have one hand tie behine are back . plow the field . to say RUSSIA could not win in afghanistan so we can,t or should not ?? we are the USA far and away better then RUSSIA. they could not win in afghanistan why??? we back the other side by arming them so russia could have there vietnam just a bit of pay back. your not going to win all the hearts and minds over there in come is base off growing fields of poppys for opium

Is an AK44 like a "mini" AK-47 Louie?

The russians could not win because we were supplying the afghans with training and weapons! They were slaughtering them until we got involved, then some jackass decided it would be a good idea for us to support the poor afghans, look where that got us!