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    It would be nice if the Prez would approach the unemployment problem, oil leak problem, border problem, and all the others with the speed and vigor he uses to go after a General and his staff over some off-the-cuff comments. JMO.

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    Here is a quote from Breitbart site written by Jeff Dunetz:

    "McChrystal is a Four-Star General, a position you do not achieve by being an idiot. Today’s military leadership is well schooled not only in war-making but in diplomacy. He knew what the content of the article would be. He also knew that the article would lead his own dismissal (or the proverbial resignation letter where he says he’s quitting to spend more time with his family).

    The Rolling Stone interview highlights the difference in the leadership styles of the President and the General. When this President faces a crisis, he looks for someone either internally or externally to blame. On the other hand, the General sees the War in Afghanistan reaching a crisis point because of the way it is being waged, rather than looking to find a scapegoat in his ranks as Obama would do, McChrystal found a way to let the country know what is really happening, while at the same time redirect any criticism for the war effort, away from his men and on to his own wide shoulders.

    Notice that even in his apology above,the General does not take back the comments, he simply apologizes for making the comments. The Military commander was sending his troops and the administration a message. To the troops he was saying ” I have your backs even to the point of hurting my own career.” The message for the administration was, “Your way isn’t working, let us do what is necessary to win this war. Even though this was a violation of the Code of Honor, the General’s statements were a service to America and to his men by confirming what we all suspected, the President and his administration does not have a clue."

    The General does not need nor got any payment from Rolling Stone, he will do fine with his military retirement, his speaking fees, and probably a book deal on his mission (not his interview). mike in tucson.

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    The Prez should be reading the battle plan, not rolling stone!!!!

    The General knows he needs 50,000 more troops right NOW to continue this war and he knows that by the 4 -6 months Prez will take to think about it we will be defeated-----

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    You got that Exactly right, Jerry.
    Kurt

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    A friend sent this to me, it's a good read.

    Chilling Letter from Proctor & Gamble to Obama


    Who would have thought, and yet many are thinking it.




    By Lou Pritchett, Procter & Gamble

    A LETTER FROM A PROCTER AND GAMBLE EXECUTIVE TO
    THE PRESIDENT*

    THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE MOST CHILLING

    Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America 's true living legends- an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management.. Lou changed the way America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as "partnering."

    Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.

    AN OPEN LETTER TO
    PRESIDENT OBAMA

    Dear President Obama:

    You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike
    Any of the others, you truly scare me.

    You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.


    You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive
    Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no
    Visible signs of support.

    You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth
    Growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.

    You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.

    You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus
    Don't understand it at its core.

    You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.

    You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned
    Yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to
    Publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..

    You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America '
    Crowd and deliver this message abroad.

    You scare me because you want to change America to a European style
    Country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.

    You scare me because you want to replace our health care system
    With a government controlled one.

    You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly
    Capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.

    You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose
    That lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of
    Living in the world.

    You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics
    Against certain banks and corporations.

    You scare me because your own political party shrinks from
    Challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

    You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider
    Opposing points of view from intelligent people.

    You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both
    Omnipotent and omniscient.

    You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything
    You do.

    You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the
    Limbaugh's, Hannitys, O'Reillys and Becks who offer opposing,
    Conservative points of view.

    You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.

    Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will
    Probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.

    Lou Pritchett
    *
    *
    This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it.
    Big surprise. Since it hit the Internet, however, it has had over
    500,000 hits. Keep it going. All that is necessary for evil to succeed
    Is that good men do nothing.. It's happening right now.*

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp

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    Lou,PLEASE run in 2012 !

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    But if you found out that all the chevys were gonna be crushed because of something wrong with them, would it then be wrong to say something if your in charge of the assembly line. I don't want to see that happen to our soldiers.
    Kurt

    I guess this is why people don't discuss politic's.
    I am all for our soldiers, and the general is one of our soldiers.
    God bless them all.

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    This is from one of our local stations and in response to their son's death in Afghanistan last week:

    http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S1623848.shtml?cat=300

    These folk are sure not an Obamanation supporter (as are most of our North Country folks here in NY State)
    Dave W
    I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug

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    IC2 I read the story from your link, it's a sad thing.

    My opinion would be to restart the draft bring in another 500 thousand or a million to get it over. There are so many people that do not have relatives over there they do not even have a clue to what is going on. There are so many people out of work in this Country that could use the money and make an all effort just like WW1 and WW2.

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    The bottom line is that this "war" can never be won, by anyone. It has been going on for centuries, for reasons none of us will understand. The logic of the combatants is so deeply entrenched in "religion" that they will go to any end to meet their goals.........whatever those might be.

    If the Russians, who play by none of the politically correct rules we are shackled by, left with their tails between their legs, what hope is there for us to achieve "peace" in that area? It is like trying to maintain law and order in a Ghetto, all you can hope to do is keep somewhat of a lid on things to keep it from getting way out of hand.

    In the mid Eastern countries there is no clear cut description of who the enemy is...........it can be Women, Kids, or the guy who was your supporter yesterday. We've all seen the images of them cheering for us one day and burning the American flag the next.

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    I don't think it's necessary to run down and sign up but they could call every able bodied they could get to help get it over with.

    I’m 63, getting close to 64 I’ve have had so many injuries many, many surgeries even had one yesterday, and I found out I have an abnormality from the EKG. I would go but they would have to replace my left knee, my right elbow, and one more radical back surgery and treat my vertigo. The first time I went I got $63 per Month.

    I'm sure they could help with your firing, I had never touched a weapon before I went in but they had me pretty good even had me on a shooting team, that was with a 45 now I use a 9mm.

    Richard

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    I agree with you Don, if the Russians couldn't do it and they play by what ever rules they want then how could we do any better. I say go all out or get out. If we could stop having our Soldiers killed in a war we cannot win then get them out. It didn’t seem to hurt Russia from pulling out of Afghanistan.

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    well i not happy about us in afghanistan BUT.. if were there we should not have one hand tie behine are back . plow the field . to say RUSSIA could not win in afghanistan so we can,t or should not ?? we are the USA far and away better then RUSSIA. they could not win in afghanistan why??? we back the other side by arming them so russia could have there vietnam just a bit of pay back. your not going to win all the hearts and minds over there in come is base off growing fields of poppys for opium
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    Is an AK44 like a "mini" AK-47 Louie?
    "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." John Basil Barnhil

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    The russians could not win because we were supplying the afghans with training and weapons! They were slaughtering them until we got involved, then some jackass decided it would be a good idea for us to support the poor afghans, look where that got us!

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