Its April 9th and its 3.45 for 87 octane in Lafayette Indiana.
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Its April 9th and its 3.45 for 87 octane in Lafayette Indiana.
3.69 here:CRY:
319 right now
Down here in NZ,we are currently paying about $1.80 per litre for 91 octane,and $1.88 a litre for 95 octane,that works out at about NZ$6.84 a US gallon,and NZ$7.14 a US gallon for 95 octane.Convert that to US$ at todays exchange rate..:eek:NZ $1.27 for a US dollar. About$8.68 a gallon for 91 and $9.07..
We are expecting it to be NZ$2 a litre by the end of the month.
That is why the F100 is running on LPG.Only NZ$1.08 per litre.:D
Smart man!. I was in shock when I filled up on the way home last night. Its up to 3.83 for regular and was 4.03 for super!
Yeah,forgot to mention,diesel is NZ$1.40 a litre,so that aint so hot either.Quote:
Originally Posted by stovens
Most of us kiwi rodders seem to be able to get out on the road regularly,so it cant be hurting us too bad yet.**) :D
It's $3.17 here today.
Pat
This is my Piggy Bank after I filled up today.:LOL: :LOL: :CRY:
340 right now
3.56+/- (Hess & unbranded) 3.689/4.099 (Exxon or Mobil, of course)
Diesel is 4.29 - 4.69 (sure makes me happy that I wasn't convinced that diesel was a "better way" then my Guzzle V10 F350)
Maybe not. Assume your V10 gets about 10mpg. At $3.56 you are paying about $0.35 per mile. The turbo diesel with chip I have seen get 18 mpg. At $4.50 this is $0.25 per mile. :eek: Diesel still more cost effective in general due to mileage advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by IC2
Kitz
Sad thing is diesel is a by product of gas production. Used to be cheaper. I feel for the independant truckers who have those huge tanks to fill up!
The price of 87 octane regular was $3.47/gallon here yesterday.
Perhaps the only thing a non-political rodder can do is to start to look at lightweight vehicles if this political gridlock continues. The cultural switch to three-wheelers with HD engines will at least have a traditional base in the long history of motorcycles. Even then I checked out the big HDs at the agency at the end of my street and found they only get about 38 mpg. Well pardon my frustration, but with all the coal in North America and recently documented oil deposits in Colorado/ND and oil sands in western Canada, it looks to me that the problem is more environmental-political than geological!
My Congressman answers my e-mail messages so maybe maybe NSRA and even SEMA folks should keep the messages flowing asking for common sense development of U.S. oil and coal deposits; let your congressman know how you feel about caribou versus oil in ANWAR. Considering the increase in food prices relative to oil maybe there should be caribou-burgers, but then there would need to be some transportation costs to bring the burgers to population centers. That just shows how important oil is to food as well as heat and transportation.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Don last month our gas bill was 400.00
I told my wife that we could get a brand new Toyota Yaris as a comuter car for about 250.00 a month car payment. We'd save at least 100.00 a month in gas economy as it gets around 35-36 stated gas milage on the hiway. A friend has one and says he gets around 40mpg. We actually test drove one, and it was comfortable and peppy for a little beater base model commuter.It also fits into those relined tight car spaces at work! I feel guilty that both cars we have only get between 20 and 22 mpg. We each commute to work. My wife goes 15 miles each way, me 25miles each way. I already car pool with a coworker, which helps. I'd love a cleaner burning hybrid, but theres that huge sticker shock and the problem with what environmental impack all those batteries have. The Yaris is just a cheap 11k new Toyota with great fuel economy. We figure if we bought one it would be like having a new car for about a hundred fifty a month plus insurance!:eek:
Our illustrious House Leadership has a plan!!!
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...008-04-22.html
That's correct - that is until you start adding in the maintainance factors along with a few other items, the diesel listed first i.e. (and these prices are for Fords, I assume Dodge and Chebbie are similar):Quote:
Originally Posted by kitz
This is every 5K miles, or $220 vs $50
15 quarts of lube oil vs 7 ($75 vs $35 - Mobil 1)
$60 fuel filter vs a $10(same brand)
$20 Oil filter vs a $5 (same brand)
$65 fuel/water filter vs 0
An air filter yearly, $60 vs $15
Then a JIC of a load of crap fuel or gas
$300 each fuel injector vs $300 set
The gasser, spark plugs every 100K, or ~$60, and maybe a a COP at $40
Now, the big killer to add to that, an $8800 base price premium for the diesel. Even a 2 year old used truck - 4-5000 more.
Then add in the payback period for a $400 to $700 chip. I can't even consider that for my truck as the last time that I looked within the past 2 months, no one offered a reliable chip for the 3 valve V10 engines, regardless of any advertising hype. I can install a Banks cat back exhaust - that's it for reliable mods. So to put it on an even keel, no mods, factory stock, the dual turbo '08 and later 6.4 Ford turbos = 10 -12 mpg. Maybe. Same as my open road mileage.
I just heard Rep. Kucinich recite how the gas companies are gouging consumers. It is simply amazing to me how folks can believe this when the price of $119/bbl is on the international market. Three things are causing this:
1. Global supply and demand when demand is increasing from India and China.
2. The failure to allow oil exploration in ANWAR.
3. The devaluation of the U.S. $
Note that I have suppressed a rant about the situation regarding oil from Venezuela and a looming problem growing there.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientis/teen rodder
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Originally Posted by Blow by
That's what the local stations are charging for gas today, and to think my project get 10-12mpg :eek: :CRY: :eek: but WTF it's only $$$$$$$$$ :rolleyes: :rolleyes: & if I want to cruz in it when it's done not only will cost more but I'm going to have to pay the "PRICE"....joe
I believe you can add speculators to the list because of the weakness of the dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Shillady
Gas in south central PA is now up to $3.67 reg / 3.95 Prem. Looks like local shows are going to be the hot item this year, that or I mount a mast and sail on the roof and hope for a strong tail wind.:CRY: :LOL: :LOL:
87 Octane is $1.25 per liter in B.C. or $4.72 per U.S. gal.
Well the cam in my SBC 350 is basically the stock Z28 cam with 1.6 rockers so the only thing left is to put 1.5 rockers on the intake side. The rear tires are already as big as the fenders allow and I already have a 700 R4, but now I am glad I have a spare set of 1.5 ratio roller rockers. I will still leave the 1.6 rockers on the exhaust valves for a slight increase in torque. A simple ratio of my 3.55 rear gear compared to the stock Z28 and the OD gear scales the 17 mpg (highway) of a '76 Z28 to about 24 mpg in the lighter A roadster. After that the only further thing would be to install a vacuum gauge to monitor fuel usage so as others have said occasional cruising will be the limit until they can get that new oil out of Colorado/ND. Hey maybe those 882 heads from the '76 Vette are just right now?! If the price of gas ever goes down (?) I can put the 1.6 rockers back on the intake valves for a little more lift.
Confession Time Relief: A year ago when I installed the 1.6 roller rockers I "lost" two of the little rubber wedges that go under the valve cover hold downs. They popped off because I did not know they were there and although I made replacements out of inner tube rubber I was biting my nails wondering if one or both fell down an oil return hole into the block where they could plug an oil passage. This week I cleaned out the garage workshop pretty good and amazingly in the sweep-up dust there were BOTH rubber wedges on the floor! Whew! The opposite to Murphy's Law is that you can't be wrong all the time!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Denny I'm with you, if I ever get my truck done, and believe me, the cost is the limiting factor these days, I'll drive it no matter how crappy the gas milage is, and enjoy every minute of it!:D **) :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by DennyW
Have you noticed who is staying absolutely silent about the gas prices? It's our good friends collecting twice the amount of sales taxes on each gallon of gas we buy,your state and county government. Hank
3.52 for regular here in west point. i get 8 miles to the gallon and enjoy every minute of it. Though $10.00 a weekend does not last long :LOL:
Way up here in the corner of washington state where we have 3 oil refineries in a 50 mile radius the 87 gas is going for $3.59 a gallon and the rich boys that drive their big boy diesel pickups to work are paying @ $4.50 a gal and the Bio diesel is $4.79 a gallon......makes my litttle chevy sprint look good as I'm driving by as their filling up........:p
If it makes you feel better, UK gas is ~$9.22/gallon for regular, ~$9.79 for premium:eek: . And they do have a bunch of early American V8 iron
I went out yesterday morning(Thursday) about 10:00 and the Mobil station near my home was $3.719. Two hours later, it was 3.739. On Wednesday morning, it had been "only" $3.679. I filled up at $3569 two miles away ( I will not buy Exxon/Mobil)
Rep Dennis Kucinich - about the only thing that I see going for him - he does have a very nice looking trophy wife http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Kucinich
As far as oil companies raping us - they make in the neighborhood of 9-10 cents a gallon, with Exxon Mobil a couple of cents more/gallon, which is what the local guy on the corner makes. Don forgot one thing on his list - the speculators at the world's investment trading companies.
Heck, if it gets too much more expensive($4+/gal), I'll cancel my yearly trip to York (been every year but one since 1986), and since I haven't paid my $68 swap meet fees yet, no big deal except the chance to meet up with some folks:CRY: .
Just filled my Comet up yesterday and gas here has jumped 20¢ in the last week. Our low is $3.89, then $3.99, and $4.09. Diesel is $4.39 or $4.49 depending on which station you go to. I really wouldn't be surprised to see it hit $5 a gallon here this SUmmer. Last year our high was $4.79.
Ron :CRY:
I heard another speech this morning full of the usual requests for freedom from special interest lobbyists, but the party of the speechmaker is the party that scuttled ANWAR oil development and amazingly I was surprised to hear even Bill O'Reilly say last night that environmental concerns in ANWAR are more important than the oil. Maybe O'Reilly should get the "Caribou Award"? I need to keep my cool but it is amazing that such a critical issue can be muddled in politics to such an extent. As mentioned by NTFDAY and IC2 O'Reilly did note the negative effect of speculators.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Not sure O'Reilly is pro econut after listening to some of his rant yesterday, but since I was in and out of the garage and the range of the radio, didn't hear it all so may have taken it out of context. Remember - politics are about politicians keeping their jobs, not about personal convictions - genetically, they don't have any:LOL: :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Shillady
IC2, That is a good idea, just keep busy in the garage and maybe by the time the car is ready to roll (at least a year for me) Colorado oil will start to come on line. Why worry, just keep busy! I have to figure out the wiring through the Ididit column and the weather is nice so today I will mess with pulling the top plate in the column and adding the dress up kit for the turn signal lever while I wait for some light machining on the double-D shaft fittings. I found that I could not penetrate 5/16" bolts (either grade 8 or grade 5) for castle nut cotter pins but that I could buy repro 5/16" bolts that were meant to hold the large bell housing on the stock Model A to the stock A block as the right length and size WITH drill holes for a cotter pin from Brattons Antiques Auto parts. So I am having the universals drilled across to accept the 5/16" bolts through the D-shaft and cotter-pinned on the other side. Just keep busy, the opiate of the masses (or was that religion?), while the politicians make speeches to make themselves look good!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Sounds like you're doing what I did a while back with my column u-joints - it takes a good drill and a drill press to get through that material. Good ol' Bratton's - I just got my latest catalog a week or two ago. They probably ship faster then anyone and for the most part are very competitively priced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Shillady
I am hearing Tony Snow on for O'Reilly today - and sometimes I believe he's actually better.
Gotta get back out - I'm hoping to bolt the body back on the chassis for the last time early to mid next week and still have a couple of panels to wet sand and buff. My wife, I'm sure, will have some "honey-do its NOW" this weekend so probably little progress then.
Later
O'Reilly has one over-riding motivator when it comes to reporting on oil issues. None of the CEOs will go on his show so he's got a vendetta going..................as much as admitted it in one of his mutter comments at the end of a report a couple years ago.
Yeah, the entire oil thing is becoming more and more less significant anyway. About every 5,000 miles or so, unless you leave 'em parked for a long time in the rain. Yeah, you could go longer but then the neighbors would not get to see you working on your toys. :LOL:
Oil changes are now cheap compared to gas ................ :rolleyes:
Kitz
Hi'Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron75
You people over the pond are so lucky with your fuel price's $4.79=£2.50.
Try our price's, £5.00=$9.95. I'm in the middle of a 32 three window coupe
build with 350 Chevy power and TH3550 3 speed auto, that's a hell of a
lot of fuel and a hell of a lot of £££££££££££££££££.
Dave Kicks.
KICKSY,
From what some of the people that I post with over there tell me your taxes make up the majority of your fuel price. If we had the same tax rate here, our prices would be right there with your. Which brings me to another point. The Republic of California is thinking about adding another 10 to 25 cent per gallon tax to gasoline because the highways are so bad. That won't help as it will go straight into their pockets just like all the rest of the taxes do.
Ron :(
down here i new zealand its hovering around $1.90 NZD for 96 octane, slightly more for 98 octane and slightly less for 91 octane per litre. it doesnt bother me much, my impala with stock 283 and 3.36 gears a few years ago would take about $70 to go from Blenheim to Christchurch here which is 311 kilometres, about 200 miles and with prices now and the big block and 3.0 gears in the same car its only $100 for the same trip nursing the loud button, lookin at it that way it doesnt seem so bad. hotrods and old tin here are mostly hobby cars only driven on weekends so a weekends gas every now and then when ya take it out isnt so bad. no ones cars mileage has changed aye it just costs more to put the gas in, if i myself was concerned about fuel prices id own a scooter or rice rocket but yea its gettin worse here, the government wants to add another 40c per litre tax on aswell and we're already taxed on it! AND paying tax and road user charges on our rego
Just for the record, one US gallon = 4 quarts and 1 quart = 0.946 Liters. So
($1.90 NZD/Liter) x (0.946 Liter/quart) x (4 qt/gallon) = $7.19 NZD/US gallon
but I do not know the exchange rate for $NZD to $USD.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
yea our gas price doesnt seem so bad but then ya gotta bear in mind our smaller average hourly pay rate and wages than everyone else aswell and is all relative