Thread: Want A Sting-Ray?
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03-29-2008 08:25 AM #1
Want A Sting-Ray?
Well it looks like GM is gonna get us or should I say bring us something?
Scoop! Return of the Chevrolet Sting Ray!
Chevrolet considers a V-6 Kappa and its name might be Sting Ray
By Todd Lassa
Art By Mark Stehrenberger
GM is seriously considering building a V-6 version of its Kappa sports car (aka Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky). But the scuttlebutt around Motown is that this version would get an all-new body, a Chevy badge, and one of the most iconic names in the GM sports-car pantheon--Sting Ray. It would be positioned as a muscular, entry-level Chevy sports car priced under the current Corvette range, but above the higher-end Pontiac and Saturn models. Given the enduring success of the Corvette, the Sting Ray plan seems plausible--and profitable.
Insiders report V-6-powered Kappa mules wearing Pontiac Solstice sheetmetal are already running around GM test facilities, even though the Sting Ray program has yet to be given official approval from GM brass. The V-6s Chevy is playing with are the 3.9-liter pushrod motor used in the Malibu SS and the high-feature 3.6-liter in the Cadillac CTS. The 3.9 is rated at 240 horses, a number that equals the expected horsepower under the hoods of the coming 2.2-liter turbo 2007 Solstice and Sky, but with much better low-end torque. The 3.6 is rated at 255 horses in the CTS and would seem the right engine to beat the BMW Z4's 225-horse inline-six. The twin overhead cams in the high-feature engine would require a bulge in the Sting Ray's hood.
Compete with BMW? Yes, like the Corvette, the Sting Ray would transcend GM's old divisional order. If it gets the green light, it'll be a well-equipped, high-spec model, priced far above the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky. Both those cars will remain four-cylinder only, although the 2008 Pontiac Solstice coupe also will come with a V-6, which helps the Chevy's business case, as it means some development and certification costs can be shared.
The Sting Ray mule comes along just as GM has confirmed a third sports car off the Kappa, a 2007 Opel/Vauxhall GT to be imported from the U.S. to Europe. That car launches only after the debut of the Saturn Sky late this spring and shares its styling. The Opel GT will probably get just one of the two engines to be offered in Solstice/ Sky--either the 170-horse, 2.4-liter Ecotec four or the 240-horse, 2.2-liter turbo, but not both.
The Sting Ray makes sense. Adding a division (or changing divisions) for a platform certainly is more novel than offering special-edition packages with leather-covered shift knobs.
The unique Sting Ray styling, a V-6 engine, and high content also could come along just as everyone who wants a Solstice or Sky has already bought one. Throw in 1950s-1960s Corvette styling cues and an attitude that doesn't try to hide the fact that this is an American-style sports car, and it could be a winner. One other factor in the Sting Ray's favor: GM's new Corvette chief, Tom Wallace, also is in charge of the Kappa cars.
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03-29-2008 08:35 AM #2
The first time I saw a Slostice (haha) I said, when are they gonna put a v-motor in it? Great lookin' little car!
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03-29-2008 10:18 AM #3
And then there's the "rumor" of a 4 cyl in the new Camaro.........
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03-29-2008 10:43 AM #4
Wow! I've never even seen a Solstice. I like the idea for the stingray. The convertible design, with the classic head supports built into the body sheet metal, is the stuff of prior legends, giving it that classic raodster look. Not a bad price for the two litre starting level of 22-23K. If it's gets its stated 19-28 mpg it would fall into the catagory of cool looking decent commuter car!(bear with me guys, I'm working on the sales pitch to me wife!)" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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03-29-2008 11:55 AM #5
I assume this thing is going to be a true mid-engine layout like they've been telling us is coming since tha late 60s so it'll be at 50/50 weight distribution.There is no substitute for cubic inches
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03-29-2008 12:04 PM #6
Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
As for the Stingray, be surprised if it happens. With sales as poor as they are with all the American (alleged) manufacturers, I doubt there is a lot of R&D money laying around to start up a new line with an all new body....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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03-30-2008 07:17 PM #7
They unveiled a Saturn Sky at the 2005 Woodward Dream Cruise. I walked up to the head guy and asked what engines? When he finished, I said and no V8? He said no not even considering one. The at the Cleve Auto Show, we saw the Mallat 2,860# car with a Corvette motor! Mallat site now sows many more performance options : at the end of their list 900 hp LS7"Chance favors the prepared mind"
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03-31-2008 09:31 AM #8
With the piddly 4 cylinder they're just bring back the Fiero.There is no substitute for cubic inches
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03-31-2008 09:42 AM #9
I just got a first look at the new Pontiac Soltice Targa Coupe. It looks to be one very nice car. It was introduce in Detroit in 2002 along with the Soltice roadster, but the roadster got the nod to build. I personally like the looks of the coupe much more. Has the lines of a fine Italian design. Base engine is a 173hp I4, but a 260hp I4 will also be available, and yes it will be rear wheel drive.
The article also says that Saturn will not get the coupe, but there may be a slim hope for Chevy. Unfortunately pricing is expected to be about $29K. There are others in that price range that may be even more fun, just not a GM.
The same mag also said that Cadillac was in the process of dumping their Northstar V8. Future Caddies will only have a V-6.Last edited by mopar34; 03-31-2008 at 09:47 AM.
Bob
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04-03-2008 11:51 AM #10
Still sounds like a new= more expensive version of the Fiero.There is no substitute for cubic inches
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