Thread: Warning from the past.......
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	03-10-2008 05:59 AM #1
 Like many on this site, I, too, served my country - wouldn't take a million dollars for the experience and wouldn't give a nickle for another. Raised and trained by WWI and WWII vets. Eagle Scout, weaned on 'God and Country' - a hard-shell conservative, not Democrat, not Republican. And sadly what I have watched evolve are the ones who dodged, protested, and evaded serving are the ones running the country. Those who did their country's bidding, have either sold out to the wishes of their "bosses" or are not given the time of day. Originally Posted by techinspector1 Originally Posted by techinspector1
 
 Unfortunately, too, is that what I have read in this thread is just about the way I see it. As technispector has stated, the massses have found that their vote will open the public coffers. Gone are the days of self-reliance, respect for authority, and love of independence.
 What happened to the "Silent Majority"? or did it really ever exist? SadI thought I was broke 'til I bought a streetrod 
 
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	03-10-2008 06:46 AM #2
 If anyone actually wants to try and do something other than vent,it would be best to pick one issue and work together to decide the best way to bring about a change. I personally would like to see something done about petroleum prices,as right now that's what is hurting me the most. I'm being told that it's the speculaters that are driving up the prices, well then I see a need to put caps on that. Opec constantly raising prices is enough,don't you think? Thismight be a good time to get together,come up with agood plan and work to get it implemented. Hank
 
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	03-10-2008 07:36 AM #3
 Well said Hank. and if i may add to it. The food prices is what is hurting my family the most. thank goodness that my hubby has a company gas card or he would not be able to get to work. But the money we spend a month at food lion is twice what our mortgage is. We have not had a cost of living increase in 3 years. We are now forced to go to a food pantry 2 times a month because our lights and water bill is getting higher and higher. How long does our government think that we can as hard working citizens carry this load on our backs. this is insanity when you get a government official get on the national news and say that the economy is in a slow down. I doubt if they know or even give a shit that milk is at 5.50 a galllon and everything that has wheat, dairy, or is trucked in is outrageous. But then WHY should they care. They do not have to suffer like the average american does. And please do not get me started on what it cost to get my son a physical to play a sport.  BARB 
 
 LET THE FUN BEGIN
 
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	03-10-2008 08:37 AM #4
 The one thing that I have to say about this is that we as a nation are letting the politicians and lawyers take away what ever freedoms that our forefathers have fought for and paid for with their own blood. Now these same politicians and lawyers are trying to organize the world government to finish the process. If we allow that to happen we will loose what freedoms we have left. When I go to the polls I always vote for the person who doesn't fear the fact that I want to take care of myself and my family. It's really too bad that the majority of Americans can't get together as a nation of people and take our country back but most people will not agree on what they truly want.
 Just remember that our freedoms were paid for with blood and if we give those freedoms up, they will have to be re-earned by the spilling of more blood. The world government that politicians are working so hard to achieve will have its own constitution which will supersede our own constitution so everything that we have fought for as a country will be lost.
 This in my opinion is the first thing that we should fight against and the Democrats trying to disarm us is all a part of their plan. Once they have taken away our defenses they can just load us on trains if they want to.
 WaltGive me something to cut with, I'm going to build a Hotrod 
 
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	03-10-2008 08:50 AM #5
 theres good and bad in everyone denny , i just wanted to toss that out but in my personal experiance there is NO such thing as a good cop.. Originally Posted by DennyW Originally Posted by DennyW
 but on the flip side sense i moved up here things have changed 90% for the better .........good points have been made by all..
 
 I LOVE MY COUNTRY , BUT I HATE MY GOVERNMENT.... 
 
 Age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm.
 Kenny
 
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	03-10-2008 09:00 AM #6
 Cops are merely a tool of the Law Makers. They are doing what we hire them to do. A lot of my friends are cops and I've ridden with them while on patrol. They have a tough job but they do have a "Them and us" mentality.Give me something to cut with, I'm going to build a Hotrod 
 
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	03-10-2008 08:52 AM #7
 There are so many things that the Democrats stand for that I do agree with. The right to choose being one of them but they also want us to become dependant on the government with their health care and welfare issues. A nation that is dependant on their government is doomed.Give me something to cut with, I'm going to build a Hotrod 
 
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	03-10-2008 09:17 AM #8
 Walt, you don't say much on this forum, but when you do you say a lot!
 Bravo!Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon 
 
 It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
 
 Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
 
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	03-10-2008 09:36 AM #9
 Thanks Bob. I know that you guys really don't know me but I have been a member for a while. I lurk all the time but didn't really think that I had anything to add. On other forums I there to answer hot rod related questions but you guys seem to have all the answers here so there's nothing for me to do. Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter  Give me something to cut with, I'm going to build a Hotrod 
 
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	03-10-2008 08:59 AM #10
 I reckon it's a good thing for folks to empty the bile from their gizzards once in a while. Truly though it don't make no difference who is the Prez or from what party they are from. It's just a big boondoggle.
 
 Just keep it in perspective. Truth is nobody from this forum is going to do anything that affects anythig anyone discussed. I say this as a matter of fact not out of malice but as an illustration.
 
 For example, long, long ago I used to watch shows like 60 Minutes and all their exposes and what not. They designed scripts that made you mad. There was always some travesty or alleged injustice being perpetrated somewhere on someone. If you'd watch them shows you'd get riled plain and simple.
 
 Well, it hit me. There is a faction that is purely trying to rile folks on purpose. The reason may not be what we actually think. Lots of these folks have agendas other than what is on the surface so we must be carefull.
 
 OK well, I'd watch old 60 Minutes and get worked up about some story every week. Then one day I realized there was absolutely nothing I could do to alter any of the circumstances that created the sad story. I wasn't responsible for any of it and realistically there was nothing I could do to change anything since it had already occurred.
 
 The next day was work again and I got back to it because THAT is the only thing that sustained my family. Politicians and do-gooders, indignant marchers or protesting mothers contrubuted absolutely zero to my family's bottom line. Regular working folks can't afford to take off work and protest this or that. Who funds them people?
 
 There is nothing anyone is going to do to change politics, the Constitution or, more realistically, a lobbyist on Capitol Hill. No one from here is going to introduce a bill to the House or even write their elected representative a harsh letter. It is what it is and the sooner you relax and realize that you are just getting mad for no reward the sooner your blood pressure will go down and all this sillness will fade away into the background perspective where it should be.
 
 Many of us have serious medical dramas ongoing and the last thing we should be worrying about is a lame duck president, the possible next prez or anything related to stress, tension or things we can't control.
 
 You can control your car but you can't control any bit of this. Face it. The sooner we realize that the healthier mentally and physically we'll be. If we allow someone or something to externally exploit our feelings we're just pawns.
 
 If you can't personally control it, it doesn't deserve your attention.
 
 It may be theriputic to bitch about costs of living and gas prices but keep it in perspective. Some of you been out of the country in the service or even on vacations so you know the score don't ya? Yeah there ain't no freakin place anywhere that is even close is there?There is no substitute for cubic inches 
 
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	03-10-2008 09:08 AM #11
 I hear you and I know that you're right but I just refuse to lay down and let them run over me. I do believe you're probably correct though and I'll probably be fighting against them until the day they throw dirt in my face. Originally Posted by Twitch Originally Posted by TwitchGive me something to cut with, I'm going to build a Hotrod 
 
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	03-10-2008 08:08 PM #12
 I must admit I didn’t watch the video at the beginning of this thread because my wife was napping on the couch, and I didn’t want to wake her. She just got home from work where she works for $8.50 per hour. Her heart is not working like it should and she is always tired, she is trying to take up the slack since I can no longer work. I did read all of the post and like most everything in life there are good and not so good points on things. Like Denny, I walked into the Social Security office of my own free will at 15 years old. I wanted to work at a gas station making $0.60 per hour. I went in the U.S.Army at the age of 17; I was tired of people telling me what to do. While in the Army I found out that I had a defect in my back after being in the Hospital, I was told I could live a normal life but should not do anything that would put stress or strain on my back. As soon as I got out of the Army I became an Iron Worker. I worked in the Steel Mills in Chicago, which are long since gone. I was not the smartest guy on the job but I was wondering why the Japanese people, were coming through an experimental lab where we were working on improving the quality of steel. These people were all smiles and friendly with their cameras around their neck. 1972 I was working 18 sometimes 20 hours a day with the new process of making steel. At the same time going to and from the steel mill we would pass vacant lots with coils of foreign steel. I work downtown on tall buildings. Two motor cycle accidents, too many broken bones, arms, leg, surgery’s way too many plus a little thing called vertigo I have to grin and bare it. I do the best I can with what I have left. In 1972 I was making more money in one week then we are living on in a month today. I was on jobs in the late 70’s that some people were told to stay home and they would send them a check. I worked in the steel mills where guys would sleep and brag about beating the system by taking food stamps. Yes if we would have taken a long look at what was going on then it would be no surprise as to where we are at today. I kid my wife when I say if we had invested in oil the price would not be where it is today since we lost on everything we invested in.
 
 Keep looking up is the best I can end with and hope our grandkids can get things back in some order.
 
 Richard
 
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	03-10-2008 08:40 PM #13
 "live free, or die", people dont seem to think that way anymore, also the phrase, if you have the ability to take action, you ahve the responsibility to take action. i frankly belive that people today are some dumbed down they ahve no idea what is coming and they will most likely accept this. give me liberty or give me death is what i ahve to say. the nazis want me come and get it, but it aint gonna be easy  
 
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	03-11-2008 06:47 AM #14
 You know, if you take the time to email your representatives and state your concerns,rather than just posting here,you walk away feeling that you have at least tried to be part of the solution. While I'm not really looking forward to this years presidential elections,none of the above is my real choice, I will be voting. Yes, my vote is just one drop in the bucket,but it might just be the one that makes it overflow. Hank
 
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	03-11-2008 09:20 AM #15
 Yep, it's only when they see the hordes coming for them with their torches smoking and the pitchforks jabbing the air that they begin to sit up, take notice, and listen. Originally Posted by DennyW Originally Posted by DennyW
 
 Several years ago, the "Republican(?)" governor in this state, who was a lame duck, got in bed with the Democrat leadership of the state Assembly and decided that what the State needed was an income tax. It made no difference what the voters said, what the polls read, or what the general feeling was throughout the state, come H, E, dbl hockey-stick or High Water, it was going to happen.
 
 That was until two local radio talk-show hosts caught wind of it and started
 inciting the natives on their drive home shows. Not too much changed UNTIL the listeners started circling the capitol and General Assembly, while they were in session, in their cars, blowing the horns. What a racket! There were families in cars, individuals, and neighbors -folks driving for miles to be a part and make their voices, read horns, heard. This went on for several weeks. The end result was that the matter was finally dropped. One of the state senators who had been pushing hard for it resigned after his term and then, when attempting to run again, was defeated.
 
 The same thing happened last year when the Amnesty issue was being ram-rodded through Congress. Had it not been for the public rising up and saying, "NO!", it would have silently and quickly been passed. Thanks again to radio talk shows for making some of the public aware.
 
 Until folks take charge instead of letting their elected officials make their decisions for them, nothing, but nothing will change. "We have met the enemy and he is us."I thought I was broke 'til I bought a streetrod 
 






 
		
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