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    sorry the last two guys in the white house did not do a damn thing about the price of fuel .so no one coming in will not. but they may say they will to get your vote??? no drilling in my back yard ! no new refineries in the usa so that is the price to pay and other will pay more for the fuel then the USA we still have a lot of coal i know they can refine it to fuel
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    Let's talk about the real leEches to the system that eat up sooooooo many of our tax dollars...This would be our "duly elected" (by about 35% of those eligible to vote) public officials.... Anybody on here that even thinks they have as good of medical insurance or retirement plan as our Senators and Representatives is just kidding themselves~!!!!! This latest travesty of justice they call a war will be costing us billions and billions of dollars for many years to come....and nobody seems to care!!!! The only way to kill this monster of bureacracy that we've had allowed to be created is to quit feeding it!!!! Don't blame the white house, nothing there but the head leech.

    As in the early days of medicine when leeches were used as an attempt to cure illness and disease... When the donor runs out of blood and quits supplying blood to the leaches it dies, and eventually the leeches all die, too.....

    I'm beginning to become an isolationist, and probably soon we'll all have to become survivalists.... Don't look to the government to solve the problems, they ARE THE PROBLEM........
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    Man that all hits heavy. We The People...............What are we going to do????????




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    Quote Originally Posted by colorado815
    Man that all hits heavy. We The People...............What are we going to do????????




    Simple solution is the one that worked a couple hundred years ago.... Just quit paying taxes and take control of the country again..... Notice I said simple, not easy.....
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    Denny, WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to be in control of this country. I say "supposed to be" because we are not. The socialists are in control. And they're in control because we have allowed it. We've sat on our collective asses and stayed away from the polls while all the blacks, latinos and other minorities have voted in their favorite socialist because they know that's who is gonna continue to feed them from the public trough.

    The only thing we can do LEGALLY is to vote the socialists out of office. The Democrats should change the name of their party to the American Socialist Party, because that's their agenda, SOCIALISM. And socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried when there are more taking than there are giving.

    I feel absolutely sick to my stomach over the choice of candidates we have in this coming general election. You haven't seen socialism until Hillary or Barack get into the White House. And I won't vote for McCain. He's soft on the illegal aliens and that's one issue that just fries me. You just watch, one way or another, all the illegals in this country are gonna be blessed with citizenship. Now, I'm like a lot of others, I don't mind people from other countries coming to America to better themselves. I wouldn't be here if my great, great grandfather hadn't come over here many years ago. But he didn't suck off the system, because in those days, there was no system to suck off of. You worked and made your own way or you died of hunger if there was no family to tend to you and give you a hand up. You learned to speak English, because this is an English-speaking country. You didn't attempt to sing the National Anthem in your native language because somebody would have beat hell out of you.

    So, the only thing we can do is to VOTE until the system crashes. Then, like I said, you'd better have plenty of powder and lead.

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    Like Denny said earlier,I don't have much time left to get kicked around.What I am concerned and worried about are my childrens future (not good).I have worked and tried to better myself in order to provide food and shelter for my family.The American Way is no longer visible.All I see is the Leeches eating away at that American Dream.The people that are Leeching (as said earlier)are the ones voting in the socialist.I heard only 26% of Texas' registered voters voted in the 2008 primary.Our welfare in Texas is second to California.We will be a welfare state by 2025, based on the current welfare system.The prisions are full and they are talking of no prision term for some drug offenses.I don't think the leaders of this country really see the problems that are plaguing this country.The majority of the present generation want to start at the top,and not work their way up.

    Jobs are leaving this country by the thousands.Companies can't hire enough talented people to fill their requirements.We import more goods than we export and most of the imported goods are junk.Our education system is falling behind other countries.China will have the USA under their grasp if things don't change soon.

    Politicians are sitting on their fannies and letting this all happen.We need more than change in Washington,we need the people to send a message to the socialist (Vote Them Out).
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    Lookin' for a fix to this mess? I don't know what the final answer will be, but I'll offer a possible solution to some of it.......

    This is going to sound over the top to some of you, but that's just the way I operate.

    In my opinion, you should not have the power to vote in this country unless you have something of value to lose, like property or a job. You also should not have the power to vote if you are not contributing to the tax base.

    All voter registrations should be rescinded and we should start over. Ballots and voter information should be in ENGLISH and English only because this is an English speaking country. In order to register to vote, you should have to show up at the local IRS office and show them your social security card. They would check records for tax returns and fingerprint you. If it shows that you have contributed via your tax return for the previous year, your name, address, ss number and fingerprints would be forwarded to the FBI to be included in their database. If you have not contributed to the tax base, sorry pal, hit the street. Once you were cleared there and found to not be a felon or have outstanding warrants, the FBI would forward the information to your local county for inclusion into the elegible voter rolls. When you show up to vote, you must have your ss card with you....or no vote.

    If you don't like my plan, formulate one of your own. If you like it, try to get it on the ballot like I plan to do.

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    If the Founding Fathers came back and saw this country today..........they wouldn't recognize it......and I think it started when the States abdicated their rights do they could feed at the Federal Tit......yuck!!

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    I would like to see the Youtube flick but this is one of about four tries to download the Flash Player. I have MicroTrend (PC-Cillin) anti-spy/virus protection and it recently (yesterday) cleaned up a virus I got from an attempt at looking at a Youtube flick on another topic. Maybe someone can give me instructions on how to download the Flash Player? When I install it I get the script "f" symbol and a green and white bar at the bottom and then that goes away and I reboot and get nothing. As far as the topic goes it is very complex and the only clear opininion I have is that the US Corporate taxes are too high which drives jobs overseas. I favor a nationalistic strengthening of the job corp, examination of the phase out of US steel and aluminum and policies to keep US heavy industry strong and that means lower industrial taxes and improved technical education. Virginia has attracted some high tech industries from Germany and elsewhere by granting local State tax breaks and funding of local technical education for the work force. However, having taught students from the general population, I think there is weakness in the idea that all we have to do is train students for high tech jobs when their aptitude struggles to meet the requirements. I grew up in an environment of steel mills, quarries and textile mills of which all are gone now and I have to say that we have had other discussions here but I am still not convinced of the benefits of increasing the minimum wage. Our minimum wage and high industry taxes almost force companies to migrate overseas. As far as the looming election goes it looks ominous to me and all you have to do is read the history of the Carter years to get the idea.

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    Ok, so we can blame the politicians and everything is their fault....


    NOW WHAT????????

    Problem is everybody complains, then pretty much forgets about it and nothing gets done, nothing changes.... Looks like we're getting exactly what we deserve.....
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    It's the blame game!!!!! Pick a side and jump in!!!!


    Congratulations Richard!!!! Only new and original ideas will solve the problem..... Depending on the system to fix itself just ain't gonna happen!!!!


    My plan is a bit more radical....Everybody just quit paying taxes til the system runs out of money... Money is power, with no money they have no power......
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    OK Denny, this is good. I'm gettin' some feedback.
    Obviously we have to fine-tune the proposal.......
    All veterans have already paid in all they are required to in service to their country and are excepted from the tax donation part of the proposal. Just show your DD214 at the IRS office and you're in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson
    My plan is a bit more radical....Everybody just quit paying taxes til the system runs out of money... Money is power, with no money they have no power......
    Well what would they do? Arrest everybody the jails seem to be full already.....
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    A new North American Union, with a flag that is a combination of the US, Canadian, and Mexican flags then the 3 countries become an organization just like Europe????

    Sure, why not???? Many of our politicians are for sale to the highest bidder, why would we be surprised if they all got together and sold the entire country to the highest bidder????? As for the Amero coin that would become the North American version of the Euro???? What is it's metal content, and where can I get one, it looks kewl and I'm something of a novice coin collector anyway....

    So, which would be worse? A country being sold to the highest bidder or one that is repo'd by the Asians for non-payment of debts?????
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    Yep, the Amero will just be one more step in the steady march toward one-world government. As a matter of fact, as I think about it, that may be the reason for the dumbing down of America. To bring it more in line with the economies of lesser nations so the transition will be smoother. Maybe that's the reason there has been little or nothing done about the proliferation of illegal aliens.

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