That's OK I visit one site where the charming dolts are actually still incensed that woodenhead Gore didn't win! 8 years later and they're still imagining how much better it would be if he was prez. All this delusional stuff about politicians is frankly pretty bizarre. People love to blame ___fill in the blank of president's name for every problem they perceive. Doesn't matter if the prez is democrat or republican, whoever is currently in is the cause of all that is bad in the world at any given time. Right?

While we all may not agree with military budgets it's probably pretty reasonable to acknowledge that without US military presence Japan would be all commies along with most of Europe.

When was the last time the Japs had to invest in an aircraft carrier? WW II that's when but ours have protected their asses so they can crank out Jigaboomobiles from state of the art factories cause they got a boy scout size military that Godzilla loves to kick around.

If we hadn't been sitting in Germany with nukes Joe Stalin would have eventually eating snails in Paris.

And worrying about black projects in regard to the bugdet is a moot point. There's been black projects at least since WW II. YOU don't need to know about every cutting edge, technologically advanced weapon system that goes online so potential adversaries can counter it.

Making obscure alleged connections to philosophies, points of views, and events 60+ years ago as cause or reason for some perceived fault in today's society is just flawed logic.

At the close of WW II the Marshall Plan invested vast sums of money to rebuild the industries of our enemies so that they would be economic trading partners sooner rather than later. Let's complain about all that money. While US industry continued to produce from machinery of the teens and 1920s, countries with shattered economies got brand new machinery to produce goods. The lesson was learned that the European Allies attempt to punish and extort reparance from Germany at the end of WW I was a mistake. The mistake left Germany in poverty and bankrupt so that a guy like Hitler's BS was a step up to salvation. The Marshall Plan got the world up and running again instead of languishing is the sorrow of the war.

But the Treaty of Versailles effectivey deluded all of Europe to believing that Germany was never going to be a threat ever again. The Weimar Republic worked around the specific military points in treaty substituting rocketry for forbidden artillery. Once in power Hitler all pretense was dropped and the Ruhr set to work building all things military. While the rest of Europe spent little or nothing Hitler was building a war machine.

Had the European nations spent the necessary sums to have upgraded militaries to be on par with Germany how much money and lives would have been saved by avoiding WW II.

So if you want to learn from history learn from it and quit manufacturing dillusional rhetoric. Who is complaining about the high cost of the Mahattan Project- 15 billion in today's economy.

Was developing a nuke at any cost worth it to the 1 million Americans and 10 million Japs it saved? Should all Americans have been told about that secret part of the budget in 1943 while Germany and Japan were both actively pursuing nuclear abilities?

The USA is a representative republic. We vote special people within our mass to be our voices in government including military spending and all the rest. If you don't vote or tell them your concerns or desires shut the flock up about it on public forums cause YOU aren't doing your part by communicating with your elected officials. You can't blame them for everything if you just want to play cars and grumble.