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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    We need to fly that guy up here and have him walk around my Vette. I can only imagine what he would say then. LMAO!
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    Probably give'im heart failure! 8-)

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    That dude on the video.. I'm totally picturing the groundskeeper character from caddyshack. I had no idea anyone in their actual rhetoric truly sounds that shot out.
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    We've got one locally.
    Its been said of him that he opens his mouth and lets the wind blow his tongue about.

    (...and yeah; it was me that said it...)
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    "......We need to fly that guy up here and have him walk around my Vette. I can only imagine what he would say then....."


    Heck I'd pay to see that

    I'm guessing he would identify it as a 54 with a Blue Flame 6.....until he realized it doesn't have carbs or plugs.


    Anyway I sent you a PM Ryan.


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    Ryan, coming along well, I know it's a poor excuse but my keys in my pocket scratched my phone camera so bad every pic looks like it was took in a cloud! I will have to get my son to take some pics, yes I have acquired some sweet hemi parts as well. I will try to make a point to post something soon!
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    I miss the days of the old caustic hot tanks. Years ago all the local machine shops went to Jet Washes. They do OK on dirt and grease but don't touch rust. Exterior rust on blocks and heads can be bead blasted off, but it's virtually impossible to clean the water passages.

    I've used citric acid to de-rust other stuff and have wanted to experiment on a block and heads.......this is the perfect candidate.


    I bought a 5 pound bag off Amazon and the largest plastic tub Walmart carries.


    Y Citric by M Patterson, on Flickr


    The first batch to go in was the spare set of rockers and shafts, main caps and HEMI heads. All this stuff had been sitting in the trunk of the Imperial for 40 some years and was coated with a hard rust. Five head bolts were rusted solid into the rocker stands on one set of rockers.


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    I put the first batch in the tub filled it with enough water to completely submerge everything and mixed in about 2 pounds of the citric acid.


    Y Soak by M Patterson, on Flickr


    It took about 4 days and during that time I eventually added about another 2 pounds of the citric acid. I suspect it would have only taken a couple of days had I done this in the summer when it was warmer........It was only getting into the 60s during the day and almost freezing at night.


    I took the caps and rockers out after the 4 days (decided to give the heads an extra day). Those parts came out rust free and the head bolt tapped out with no problem. The rockers are still a little stiff on the shafts so I'm hitting them with penetrating oil before I take them apart.


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    As I said main purpose of going thru this was to get the rust out of the water jackets and I'm pretty happy with how that turned out.

    WJ by M Patterson, on Flickr


    The Poly heads are currently in the tub (with the same solution) and they should be ready to come out about the time I get the block out here.



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    WOW.

    Citric acid...

    Isn't that vitamin C?
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    Crikey!
    Now that's a good trick to remember.
    To de-scale the internal passages of any big chunk of metal is virtually impossible.
    But that sounds almost too good to be true.
    And it's cheap too!
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    Thanks for showing this. I remember a few times when I was younger I seen some engine parts coming back looking brand new. I always wondered what they used to use.
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    Very nice Mike! I wonder if you added a couple nozzles, a water pump, and a livestock water heater if it would work even better? I may have to try this on a some cummins parts I have.

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    “………Citric acid... Isn't that vitamin C?.......”

    No but both are found in citrus fruits. (yeah, I had to look it up )

    https://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=...B-AB4E18ED0BE3

    “…….I wonder if you added a couple nozzles, a water pump, and a livestock water heater if it would work even better?......

    I think you just described a Jet Wash Ryan.

    Keeping it warm would help….all I had was a small tank heater I used to keep it above freezing a couple of mornings.

    Dave over at the machine shop told me the caustic solution is still available and I’ve hears of guys using a 55 gal drum with a ring heater to make a poor mans’ hot tank. The problem is getting rid of the solution after you’re done or it gets to the point where it’s not working anymore.

    I’ve used vinegar to de-rust stuff in the past and the smell gets pretty intense and unpleasant (to me anyway). It’s also more expensive than the citric acid. The citric acid doesn’t have near the smell and what you smell mostly is kind of lemon scented. Basically when you’re done de-rusting what you have left over is rusty un-sweetened lemonade.

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