Mike, I should have. This one was more messy than usual. Typically you install them with an initial click plus 4, you know on the bench, off the engine, Haha. But this one wanted initial plus 6 so that was 3-4 times removing the side plug and that allows the oil to run out and there's no real nice way to catch it so it goes everywhere. Plus it snowed etc. Just a bad deal to be doing out doors.