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    When I drive my car (350, stock dished pistons on a stock bottom end, RPM Air-Gap intake, 750 holley, vortec heads, msd ignition, comp 268XE cam, 1/2 fuel line with a holley black fuel pump 150ish GPH) on the street, just cruising, i hear and feel a pop or backfire. Under acceleration it works fine. When we built the engine we didn't have it bored, just re-ringed and the top end is completely new except the carb. It is the second carb we put on it. We got this one from a race shop we go to and they both said it was a perfectly good carb when the gave it to use. I know a 750 is alittle big but would that make it pop? is there something that makes it pop that I'm not seeing? I don't really know what to ask, I guess just looking for some suggestions on what to check.

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    timing?...
    just because your car is faster, doesn't mean i cant outdrive you... give me a curvy mountain road and i'll beat you any day

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    what kind of heads?
    If I knew anything I'd be dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUBJUB
    When I drive my car (350, stock dished pistons on a stock bottom end, RPM Air-Gap intake, 750 holley, vortec heads, msd ignition, comp 268XE cam, 1/2 fuel line with a holley black fuel pump 150ish GPH) on the street, just cruising, i hear and feel a pop or backfire. Under acceleration it works fine. When we built the engine we didn't have it bored, just re-ringed and the top end is completely new except the carb. It is the second carb we put on it. We got this one from a race shop we go to and they both said it was a perfectly good carb when the gave it to use. I know a 750 is alittle big but would that make it pop? is there something that makes it pop that I'm not seeing? I don't really know what to ask, I guess just looking for some suggestions on what to check.
    HI,
    I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS MY CAM LOBES WORE AND CAUSING THE VALVES NOT TO OPEN AND CLOSE PROPERLY...ALSO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE VALVES ALL ADJUSTED PROPERLY!!!!HOPE THIS HELPS OUT!
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    we ckecked the timing and its was fine. 13 initial and 36 total.

    heads are vortec off a pickup

    we can check the cam but its not consistant enough to be that. it only happens when im cruising, not under acceleration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNY43
    HI,
    I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS MY CAM LOBES WORE AND CAUSING THE VALVES NOT TO OPEN AND CLOSE PROPERLY...ALSO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THE VALVES ALL ADJUSTED PROPERLY!!!!HOPE THIS HELPS OUT!
    whaT ABOUT THE PUSH RODS!IF THEY ARE BENT .THIS HAPPEND ALSO.
    SO TELL ME ,,IS THE MOTOR FRESH? OR DO YOU GOT MANY MILES ON HER?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TUBJUB
    we ckecked the timing and its was fine. 13 initial and 36 total.

    heads are vortec off a pickup

    we can check the cam but its not consistant enough to be that. it only happens when im cruising, not under acceleration.
    I BET YOU GOT THE 992 VORTEC HEADS,THEY ARE THE BEST FLOWING HEADS FROM THE FACTORY,, POPPING NOISE ,,GENERALLY COMES FROM THE VALVES,IF YOU GOT IT IN PARK AND SLOWLY REV IT UP..WHAT HAPPENS?
    ALSO WHAT KINDA CAM YOU RUNNING? IS THE CAM NEW OR USED,,,,,IF THE CAM IS OLD,YOU BETTER CHANGE IT..
    STOCK OR? ,?
    YOU ALSO COULD HAVE A (BENT VALVE)
    I HAve WORKED ON MANY CHEVY SMALL BLOCKS.
    gotta be in the valve train (for sure)
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    Popping at cruise but not at full power tells me it's not mechanical. It's a carb or ignition issue. Is it popping through the carb or through the exhaust?

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    yup.... valve train is generally gonna affect more at idle and acceleration.... :edit: while i was on the "throne of thinking" i thought maybe you should see if your either advancing too early of an RPM when just cruising not puttin a ton of gas in it, or maybe you're advancing too late of an RPM and not getting enough timing at your cruise RPM
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    just because your car is faster, doesn't mean i cant outdrive you... give me a curvy mountain road and i'll beat you any day

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesals
    yup.... valve train is generally gonna affect more at idle and acceleration.... :edit: while i was on the "throne of thinking" i thought maybe you should see if your either advancing too early of an RPM when just cruising not puttin a ton of gas in it, or maybe you're advancing too late of an RPM and not getting enough timing at your cruise RPM
    I GENERALLY THINK IF YOU DO A TROUBLE SHOOT ,,STEP BY STEP...YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM ,,IT SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THEN 30 MINUTES TO FIGURE OUT WHATS GOING ON,,,MAN I WISH I WAS THERE?TO HELP YOU OUT!
    JUST A THOUGHT.GOOD LUCK!
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    the engine has about 5000 miles, all be it a few hard miles at the track.

    the cam is a new comp cams xtreme energy 268. lift 477in/480exh with probably only 1000 miles, if that, on it and the springs to match and the heads were worked at accept a bigger lift.

    i believe the popping is from the exhaust, i can feel it in my feet. but it is kinda hard to see the carb while driving. and when my dad was following my once (incase i broke down) he could hear it and it puffed out smoke everytime it popped.

    i'll try the slow reving in park and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUBJUB
    the engine has about 5000 miles, all be it a few hard miles at the track.

    the cam is a new comp cams xtreme energy 268. lift 477in/480exh with probably only 1000 miles, if that, on it and the springs to match and the heads were worked at accept a bigger lift.

    i believe the popping is from the exhaust, i can feel it in my feet. but it is kinda hard to see the carb while driving. and when my dad was following my once (incase i broke down) he could hear it and it puffed out smoke everytime it popped.

    i'll try the slow reving in park and see what happens.
    yes thats a nice street and strip cam......
    so ur saying the popping is from the exhause not the carb,,,,please try this in park,,,and let me no what happens,,also im thinking you may have some adjustment issues on the valves
    (exhaust valves,,,,,)im wondering how did u adjust them ,,
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    my brother adjusted the valves, but i think he tightend the pushrods until there was a very small amount of resistance then went another quarter turn.

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    i raised the rpms to about 2000 and it started to shake very bad. it was popping and felt like it was missing.

    it doesn't seem to pop when i let off the gas

    the sparkplug wires are brand new MSD 8.8mm and are run clear of everything and have the heat protective boots on the plugs to keep them off the headers.

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    it could cross fire, but thats why we got the msd wires so it wouldn't.

    when we had it dyno tuned (old carb) he said the timing curve was perfect. we haven't touched anything in the distributor since then.

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