thanx guys that is one area i havent thought of.... i was wondering if the edelbrock 2.0 might have anything to do with it...i noticed that it covers the back 2 water jackets on the heads...it completely blocks them off...i called edelbrock and they said every intake they produce blocks those water jackets off...i have never had a cooling problem so i thought everything was ok...but if it is a valve guide i guess i can dismiss the intake idea......whats are some visual inspections that i can make to determine if the guides are bad?.....the only thing is that all 8 plugs are wet after just minutes of running, could just one bad guide cause this?...or are all the guides and maybe valves bad? again i appriciate(yeah i know bad spelling....its late) all the help