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    Help! Object in Cylinder Head

     



    Hey guys, a little washer made its way into the cylinder head, I tried to retrieve it with a magnet but no luck.


    Next course of action would be to remove the heads, however when I started removing the head bolts next to the spark plugs not the ones by the valves, engine coolant started coming out.

    I had already flushed the system because I was changing out my intake manifold and stuff when this happened.


    Need help, please and thank you.

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    Engine is still in the truck obviously, and I need to know what I can do to flush out the rest of the coolant.

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    I am not sure where the engine block drain is located. its a 350 small block.

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    Drains are on both side of the block, in the middle near the oil pan. They are regular pipe plugs. if haven't opened these up you will still have anti-freeze in the block.
    This pic show a petcock drain when the plugs would be at..joe
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    Is the intake still off?
    Can you see the washer?
    Is it in an intake runner?


    Try using a small hook made out of a coat hanger


    Some glob of grease on the end of a small stick or end of screw driver


    Never use stainless bolts or washers/nuts around open holes in the top of a motor(carb hold downs)


    You can put a small diameter hose thru those head bolt holes and syphon the coolant level down below the spill level


    clean up any anti freeze if any pets/other animals around

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    I have taped a small hose to my shop vac and gone through the spark plug hole to gge things out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    I have taped a small hose to my shop vac and gone through the spark plug hole to gge things out.
    .... and it helps a lot if you empty the vacuum before you start this so you can easily see the washer w/o sorting through a bunch trash. Might be able to suck through the intake port w/o the small hose.
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    Thanks guys, I'll have to attack this, this weekend, I tried looking for the washer inside with a led light where it fell into and I couldn't see anything and couldn't get anything with the snake magnet. Looks like I'll be draining the rest of the coolant and taking this darn head off. Thanks again guys.

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    I sometimes when trying to suck little things up will attach a sock over the snout inside the vacume housing to catch items--------usually tho its not just a washer but maybe some ultra valve keeper, jet, etc--------moral? don't throw away any old socks--------
    And a shop vac into the intake port with the spark plug of that cylinder removed can creat enough tornatic action to suck small items out of a cylinder back thru open intake valve into port area---sometimes lots easier than taking a head off in a vehicle----------
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    So I got me a digital inspection camera, it's for sure in the cylinder, right underneath the spark plug hole on the piston, however the magnet attachment for the camera and just the camera itself I can't maneuver to get it, and the valve on top isn't open enough to put the camera in thru the top. Any suggestions? I still have yet to try the shop vac.

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    I should state I haven't taken the cylinder head off the engine yet, trying to try everything I can before I do that.

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    If its a stainless steel washer a magnet won't work------


    Is the intake manifold on the engine?


    If the washer is laying on the top of the piston---not stuck between the side of piston and cylinder wall---you can turn the engine to where oiston is nearing top of stroke with exhaust valve open and probable suck it out the exhaust--again tho, put a sock over where hose goes into buck on shop vac so you'll know that you have it

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    Only thing worse that dropping a fastener down the hole is thinking you dropped a fastener down the hole when you didn't.... I admit to even removing heads looking for a missing screw only to find it on the front crossmember.

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    Jerry, yes the intake manifold is off

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