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    Like the bobbed frame rail treatment. That spreader bar tucked up tight is a nice look.

    I have/had 2 Equinoxes and one Terrain and have a total of more than 520,000 total miles on those electric power steering units with zero problems. They are bulky but would be a great swap.

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    Figure8 commented he thought I was building a roadster... When I started this project I fully intended to build a roadster, but I later changed direction. I went back and read the entire thread to this point; I owe you all an apology for not being clear on the subject. When did I change my mind and why?

    My original plan was to build a roadster to replace the Track-T I had up for sale. I was enjoying the open car, but my wife couldn't get in and out without help because of her back. I was going to build another roadster that had doors - a '32 Highboy. Meanwhile, I was still driving the Track-T whenever I was going someplace without her. In 2017, after I was already building my '32 chassis, I kept getting rained on. From late May until mid-November, every time I got the roadster out I got wet! I didn't even have to leave the house. I could set it in the front yard with a FOR SALE sign when there was not a cloud in the sky and 20 minutes later it would be pouring rain! After that I decided if I wanted to drive my '32 it was going to have to be a coupe. Yes, I could put a top on a roadster, but side curtains are a pain in the butt to deal with. A cabriolet would be the answer - a folding top with roll-up windows. That would be fine if I had $14,000 to blow on a body. I don't. A 3-window has a top and windows so I can drive it year-round regardless of weather and the body costs under $8,000. I made the decision to go with the 3-window last year after getting wet about the tenth time. For some reason I never said anything about it on here.
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    The pic below is of my new steel grille shell and stainless grille insert. I have two fiberglass shells - one from Westcott's which is nice (it's the orange one in previous pics) and a second one that came with my body which is a POS (badly warped on one side). I almost bought a new stainless insert at the Turkey Run last month for $195, but for some reason I walked away from it. Anyway, I was poking around on Ebay after that and I found this steel shell with insert for $192 and free shipping. It had some mixed reviews from other purchasers, but I figured if I could use the insert in my good fiberglass shell I was money ahead and, if the steel shell was bad, I could use it to make a conversation piece for my shop wall...

    When it arrived I was pleasantly surprised by the appearance. The shell was beautiful at first look and so was the insert. Problem was they didn't fit together! The first problem was the outer rim of the insert was slightly flared outward all around the back edge. I held the insert face down on a flat table and used a flat-faced hammer to "persuade" it inward slightly, all the way around the perimeter. It was much closer to fitting then, but still a bit too tall. Using a body spoon and a 20 ounce ball-peen hammer, I hammered the inside flange of the top and bottom of the shell (areas between the arrows in the pic) to lengthen the opening just a little. The insert still fits very snugly, but it goes in now. I will probably do a little more hammer and dolly (or spoon) work before I finish, but I now have a nice steel shell and stainless insert.
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    Nice fix and that's a pretty good deal at that price from what I remember.
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    I'm back, finally. I have been sidetracked a bit while I was building a new Electrathon car. For those who don't know, Electrathon America is an organization that promotes building and racing electric cars. I first got involved with it in 2002 when I was teaching Engineering Technology at the local high school. I retired in 2010, but I have stayed active in Electrathon. I sold my car back in September and just finished building a new one last week. I debuted it Saturday (2-16-19) at USF and won my class. I have attached a pic below.

    OK, in between some of the construction steps on that new Electrathon car I was able to study on some of the parts and components for the Deuce. When I fit the brake pedal on the bracket under the body, it appeared to me that it was just wrong. That thing was going to come through the floor way too high inside and interfere with locating the bottom of the steering column. I finally found a picture of what I needed online with dimensions. The pedal I had was 4 inches too long/tall! My good friend, Mike, had another pedal left from a previous build that he gave me. It looks like the picture I found and, sure enough, the dimensions are correct (see comparison pic below). Problem solved.

    I also started fooling with the dash a little. I bought my gauges a while back and found a really cool looking bezel for them. After determining which way I like the looks of the bezel, I used a measuring tape to center it, marked the holes, and started cutting them out with hole saws.

    I will finalize the steering column location soon and complete the shaft connection. Then I will be able to take the car all apart and start finalizing the welding, painting and assembly.
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    Nice looking gauge bezel!
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    I'm fighting the urge to comment on your elastic tilt column mechanism...….
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    Isn't it called a "column drop"? Just a little tug and it drops right in my lap! I can even pull it sideways and steer from the other seat. Hotrodding is all about innovation, right? You guys are all just sorry you didn't think of it first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Robinson View Post
    Isn't it called a "column drop"? Just a little tug and it drops right in my lap! I can even pull it sideways and steer from the other seat. Hotrodding is all about innovation, right? You guys are all just sorry you didn't think of it first...
    That certainly brought a smile to the dial!
    Very clever sir, very clever indeed.
    I could've pushed the 'like' button twice for that.

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    Yes that bezel is nice!
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    Okay, I'm back. I got delayed for a short time waiting on some parts. Uncle Bob didn't like my elastic column drop, so I had to spring for something more solid. I also got some double-D shaft and another u-joint. I actually bought an extra u-joint because I thought I would need it, but it turned out just fine with only two.

    I couldn't get a camera angle that would show it, but the shaft does actually clear the header without touching; there is about 1/8 inch clearance. Inside I stretched a strip of orange masking tape across the lower dashboard brackets to approximate where the bottom of the dash will be. I used a 7 inch column drop. I was able to mount it by simply cutting a rectangle from some 10-gauge steel, drilling the necessary holes, and welding it to the square-tube reinforcement in the body. The weld isn't pretty because I ran out of Argon/CO2 gas and had to switch to flux-core wire. That's OK, though, it won't show when the dash is in place.

    A couple more small things and I'll finally be ready to blow this thing apart and do all the final finish welding...
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    OK, I'm back.., finally! After my last post I got sidetracked building another Electrathon race car for a school. I finally priced one of my E-cars so that I got paid for my time (I've practically given my labor away on these cars in the past) and they agreed to pay it. I couldn't turn it down - I wanted the money to help finish this Deuce. Then, at the last race of the season, I broke the front suspension in my E-car and it required major surgery to repair it before I put away for the summer. And then I took time to put air conditioning in my shop. So.., finally I can get back on the Deuce.

    One thing I don't particularly like on many of the fenderless '32s I see is the gas tank hanging on the back end with no protection but a spindly little spreader bar. To me that looks like suicide by fire waiting to happen. "To each his own" they say, but there's no reason to tempt fate that much, especially with the instance of distracted drivers now days. Having said that, my gas tank (fuel cell) is going in the trunk. If someone hits me in the rear end hard enough to get to the fuel cell, I will already be dead of a broken neck and internal injuries.

    First pic is my fuel cell sitting on the trunk floor. Obviously it can't sit like that; the floor isn't flat. I propped the tank in place so it sits flat and then used a piece of cardboard to make a pattern of the space under the fuel cell. Next, I cut 3 pieces of pressure treated 2 x 8 according to the pattern.
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    I put the fuel cell all the way to the left because the battery will go in the space on the right. After marking the end of the tank on the floor (red arrow), I remove it and mark the center between the oak body support and the end of the tank (green arrow). The left support will be set in 4 inches so it can connect to the wood already in the body, so I mark 4 inches from the end of the tank for the right support (blue arrow). With all three supports in place I can trial fit the fuel cell. Looks good and level, so I will glue, screw, and 'glass them in place. To complete fuel cell installation, I will fabricate a pair of steel straps.
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    Nice. What are you using to separate trunk from back seat? I'm always worried about a hit from behind, since last summer, around today actually, when some distracted driver slammed into the back of my 4x4 1998 toyota tacoma, while the rest of us on the hwy were at a complete stop. I had a brief second after coming to an abrupt stop to see a guy coming at 70 mph in my rear view mirror, before I was knocked unconscious. The Old truck probably saved my life, I know if I was driving the MR2 Spyder, we wouldn't be chatting right now. The van that hit me, and caused my truck to hit two cars in front of me, somehow fled the scene on a 8 lane insane east bay hwy at 10:30 in the morning!
    So trust me when I say I think about what your thinking!
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    I had safety in mind when I was building the tank area in the trunk of my '32. I constructed a 5/8 inch plywood surround that walled off the tank from the passenger area. Then I use fiberglass matte to glass it into the floor, top, and sides of the trunk. I also reinforced the frame behind the rear facia thinking that those two things would help protect me in a rear end crash situation. I don't know if anything would protect one in a 70 mph hit in one of these cars.
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