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    A great hot rod needs a theme - bias tires and billet tailights don't mix. Aluminum radiators are for contemporary styled cars, etc.
    Acrtually, that was my point.
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    Yup, Denny. That's what I thought Hot Rodding was too... Didn't know it involved a fashion show, too!!!!

    PS... This is Webster's definition:

    hot rod
    2 entries found for hot rod.
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    Main Entry: hot rod
    Function: noun
    : an automobile rebuilt or modified for high speed and fast acceleration

    Guess the dictionary is wrong too????
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    So if anyone does anything to their car to make it look better instead of go faster they are going soft? If its not about looks and style too, why use a 75 year old design of body and frame? Why not build truly modern vehicles with far superior chassis, suspension, and drivelines if performance is the only thing that really matters? Why does your signature say you still like yours to look nice and have shiny paint? Does that make it go faster? Just wondering....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyW
    Actually, shinny paint does make it go faster. Kinda like the swimmer shaving their legs.
    Yes, but it also adds weight. Bottom line is, if you don't like bias ply tires, fine... that's one thing. But to make a statement to imply that the sole purpose of building a hot rod is to go fast and that anyone who does anything to their cars to improve its appearance rather than make it fast or handle better is foolish, well that just seems kinda funny to me. I've spent all winter working on my car and making dozens of improvements to it, NONE of which will make it any faster or handle any better. i got alot of help from the people on this board who have done similar upgrades and improvements, which likely didn't make their cars any faster or handle any better either. I can't speak for any of them, but I sure don't feel like I was wasting my time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeybsyc
    So if anyone does anything to their car to make it look better instead of go faster they are going soft? If its not about looks and style too, why use a 75 year old design of body and frame? Why not build truly modern vehicles with far superior chassis, suspension, and drivelines if performance is the only thing that really matters? Why does your signature say you still like yours to look nice and have shiny paint? Does that make it go faster? Just wondering....

    Why indeed??? Not all of us are stuck in the rut of thinking a 75 year old body and frame design is the only thing to build..... Last Deuce I built was IFS and IRS hooked to a tube chassis, with an injected Windsor and a 6 speed...Not much left of the 75 year old stuff, body was only 6 weeks old!!!! My point is that a car does not have to be a 75 year old design to be a hot rod,

    Btw, looking good is a natural byproduct of going fast.... When you work as hard as I have on building rods for 40 plus years, they just end up looking nice, shiny paint prevents rust... It's called attention to fit, finish, and detail... Although once I did have a sprint car that the entire frame was finished with a purple scotch brite, then two coats of clear over the bare metal, looked great!!! Decided paint was too heavy!!!!
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    This thread is out of control dudes.

    Ya'll are microwaving bull cookies from years back on all kinds of stuff. Faith go buy some tires and see how you like them. You can easily go back and I bet you won't have to delare bankrupcy either.

    BTW my fiberglass street rod will kick the crap out of all of you. That's right, I called it a street rod, so there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kitz
    This thread is out of control dudes.

    Ya'll are microwaving bull cookies from years back on all kinds of stuff. Faith go buy some tires and see how you like them. You can easily go back and I bet you won't have to delare bankrupcy either.

    BTW my fiberglass street rod will kick the crap out of all of you. That's right, I called it a street rod, so there.


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    Not out of control, Kitz..... Just some disparity amongst what Hod Rods are!!!!


    PS, still saving me a spot down there around Austin someplace??? I AM eventually going to get the heck out of here!!!!!!
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    There are 2 groups fastly separating in this hobby - street rodders who can build a '32 with all new parts out of magazine, and hot rodders who are building cars traditionally using old OEM stuff.
    So, there's only two schools - kit cars and salvage build ups? Geez, I see more variations than that every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rifle
    So, there's only two schools - kit cars and salvage build ups? Geez, I see more variations than that every day.
    This thread is like a sponge, it just sucks you back in -

    Firstly, I don't call the cars built from new parts "kit cars". You should know better also, that is often offensive to the people that own/build them. Taht is a hot-button term that upsets many people.

    Secondly, the cars I was referring to that are built from used parts aren't "salvage" builds. I'm not talking about a Model A sedan with an Astro van tilt column, front seats out of a Buick Regal, and a set of wheels off a '01 S-10. I'm talking about a build using parts that are all era specific parts - "48 flathead, '37-50 3spd, closed drive, banjo rear, early Ford juice brakes, etc. New reproduction parts are fine, such as the '37-41 Lincoln brakes now being reproduced.

    There are many genres of the car hobby - I never said only two, I said these two are rapidly separating - the period correct fans are moving away from the street rod scene pretty fast - we are taking these cars to Amelia Island and the Pebble Beach Concours shows - this is an entire other world from the NSRA Nats people -

    This segment of the hobby(traditional, period correct hot-rodding) is sort of related to the restoration segment. They are like a restoration, but they are restoring a '30 model car to the state they may have been modified to in say '48.

    AGAIN - I like them all. I own all types. I've built all types. I think a stone stock '70 SS Nova is awesome. I like a slightly lowered '59 Caddy, I like a '29 roadster with a flathead and a "39 gearbox, I like a new slick 'glass '32 with an injected aluminum small block, a six-speed and a quicke. They are all awesome - they all have a purpose and a certain "look" or appeal.

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    No.

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    After all the sniping she may have lost faith............let's hope that charity will prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
    After all the sniping she may have lost faith............let's hope that charity will prevail.
    Do you know Charity, Uncle Bob??? Heck of a nice girl, now if she'd just shed a few pounds!!!!!!

    I think Faith went to make another movie. I have faith that Faith will prevail and have enough faith in all the postings here that Faith will accept us in faith....or something like that...
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    What? You don't have much faith in hope? That's not very charitable of you!
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    Faith and begorra, this thread has taken a turn.
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