Thread: My next move with hiboy's metamorphosis

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Originally Posted by SirSpeedy

Boy you are a quick trigger dude - this is not what I am saying. Certain cars, trying to achieve a certain look, and a certain application...read - read - read

Well, then you can sit around and look nice and cruise with your bias tires!!! Me, I build all my own cars, and utilitze the best parts either I or the customer can afford. It's not a Hot Rod to me if it won't go fast enough to start your hair on fire and handle like a slot car when you get to the twisties!!!!! Traditional, street rod, hot rod, muscle car, restomod and all the other labels are totally meaningless to me. I build off my own ideas and my own plans. Should the case ever arise that folks feel one of my cars fits one of their "catagories" I could only say that it was done totally by accident. I'll never see what fun it could possibly be to build a catagory specific car and substitute "era correct" for "performance correct". All this emphasis on "traditional rods" is pure bs.... When the cars being copied were built "back in the day" many of these builders used cutting edge technology and there only concern was to find a few more horsepower or a bit better suspension then the next guy... Cars weren't built to fit a catagory then and IMO they shouldn't be now. Everything old is new again....whoopie... I've never built a car to impress anyone else or to meet their standards or criteria unless someone else is paying the bills... If some of the original hot rodders could be reborn today, I doubt seriously they would touch a flathead or a bias tire, they'd be building with those big huge rims, radial tires, blown and injected aluminum engines and they would sit around and chuckle about just how archaic their "traditional rods" were.....

Copying is the most sincere form of flattery, guess I don't take a whole lot of time to flatter anyone. Too busy looking, scheming, and dreaming about what the next great innovation will be, and how I can work it in to my next build... I never have been and never will be accused of building a car that emulates anyone else's. To me the past is history and the future is exciting....

Don't catagorize my cars as anything but "mine"!!!!!

If you don't understand how to achieve a certain look, you must run bias tires, then one could try to explain it for days and you would never get it.

The cars below would look better with radials?

Right, Speedy, we're so stupid we don't get it, and we're so dense that we will never understand.

You win . . . for most condescending post on this thread. Your trophy is in the mail.

I've been doing this long enough that I know how to create just about any "look" I want. And, any of the last three cars would look just fine with a different tire/wheel combo. They wouldn't have your "look" but who gives a rat's fuzzy backside.

Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

Right, Speedy, we're so stupid we don't get it, and we're so dense that we will never understand.

You win . . . for most condescending post on this thread. Your trophy is in the mail.

I've been doing this long enough that I know how to create just about any "look" I want. And, any of the last three cars would look just fine with a different tire/wheel combo. They wouldn't have your "look" but who gives a rat's fuzzy backside.

Jack, add me to the dumb as a rock list too. I'm not ever gonna get it either!!!!

PS---Is their also certain clothing we would be required to wear to have "the look"? Want to make sure I understand all this.....

What cracks me up about this is Faith started out telling you in effect "don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up". And then you guys spend nearly four pages doing just what she said she wasn't interested in!

Now where in the hell do women get the idea that men just won't listen to them!!

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Now where in the hell do women get the idea that men just won't listen to them!!

well, her statement is one of the reason guy's won't listen, (Don't confuse me with the facts) Besides, just a bit late in life for me to start any new habits anyway!!!!!

Originally Posted by DennyW

Someone better get ahold of this guy and inform him about those tires.

It's to bad to, cause I think that makes it look really nice.

That car is awesome. It looks right with that tire/wheel choice. It has a late '60's early 70's look.

I gave her no advice at all. I have faith in everything she does . . .

Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

I have faith in everything she does . . .

Groooaaannnn!!!!

. . . . *rimshot*

This thread was interesting to say the least... I still have the radials on my car, and will take everything said into consideration, I agree, sometimes "the look" isn't as important as being safe, and I respect the advice all you guys who have been doing this for years are willing to provide to a rodder "newbie" like myself. I hope no one got offended by my thoughts/ opinions, as I think thats what makes rodding so cool, there are no "rules". Opinions yes, but theres no guidebook to tell you what's right and whats wrong, its a matter of free expression. I've always been into stock restored cars, where there was no gray area, everything was either correct or it wasn't... no room for personalization. Everything from the battery cables to the tires needed the right date code or part number or it was deemed "wrong". With rods, you can do whatever you want, and for the most part, everyone respects everyone elses ideas...Oh and I did find proof that you radial guys are right. j/k!!!

Now you guys have me wondering how these puppies are gonna be on the street?


Hey, this thread was just a lively discussion between friends. If we all thought the same it would be pretty darned boring.


Don

I'm not saying radials are bad, just that they aren't any great deal better. I run 'em on most of my rigs, because they were built for them. But some cars work better on bias plys. It seems to be that the older ones without rubber bushings in the front end get harsh and noisy with radials.
A point of interest.....Here in Sask. it is illegal to run radials on the front axle and bias on the rear. The other way around is okay. I found this out when stopped driving a '66 Chev flatdeck dually one-ton with front radials and was ordered to get them off there. It steered great like that, but no way, sez Big Brother.

Oh, Faith, what hath thou wrought? LOL!

This thread is absolutely hilarious.

I think Faith is sitting back laughing. Lets think this through, she lives in SoCal, runs with the traditional hot rodding people around there - hangs out at Hollywood Hot Rods and has them working on her car....she should know that this is totally the wrong crowd to even pop this question - this is "club street rod".

Henry - Sorry you think I was condescending. Each of the those cars I posted are pretty special. You said the last three cars would look good with radials? The last one is the Henderson roadster, on the "75 list", and I was at the shop of the man who owns/restored it to is '47 grandeur yesterday. They have been invited to bring it to Pebble Beach. It won Amelia Island in '02. Good shot at winning the hot rod class at Pebble. And they drive the hell out of it.

There are 2 groups fastly separating in this hobby - street rodders who can build a '32 with all new parts out of magazine, and hot rodders who are building cars traditionally using old OEM stuff. I like both. I own both. I've built both - with radials and bias tires.

I have a car in my shop that has no single part newer than '48, minus the obvious, belts, hoses, tires, oil, gas, etc. That is cool. I will drive it. Yep, Bias tires, '40 brakes, unsplit bones, closed drive, a dropped axle(yes, with heat), F1 steering, buggy springs, unboxed frame, lever shocks, etc

Originally Posted by SirSpeedy

This thread is absolutely hilarious.

I think Faith is sitting back laughing. Lets think this through, she lives in SoCal, runs with the traditional hot rodding people around there - hangs out at Hollywood Hot Rods and has them working on her car....she should know that this is totally the wrong crowd to even pop this question - this is "club street rod".

There are 2 groups fastly separating in this hobby - street rodders who can build a '32 with all new parts out of magazine, and hot rodders who are building cars traditionally using old OEM stuff. I like both. I own both. I've built both - with radials and bias tires.

I sincerely hope we are not all expected to accept your definition of "hot rodder".... John Force calls his funny car a hot rod, Rusty Wallace calls his NASCAR stuff hot rods. I am a hot rodder, have been for better then 40 years now. But that CERTAINLY does not meat that I am going to get stuck in a rut building cars with outdated parts and technology. Your definition severely limits the scope of hot rodding, I'm afraid. Always seems that the people who jump on the band wagon and are totally involved in the latest fad get left behind when the next fad starts. Lots of us just keep on building hot rods that appeal to us, as individuals, and to heck with the catagories, labels, fads, and and avoid any tunnel vision approach to hot rodding like the plague.....