thanx bro, about to break me.only diff between men and boys is 'price of their toys........i been thinkin about givin it up and selln all ..truck ,trailor,parts etc but i know i cant get my money out of it and then if i decided to get back in take twice the money to build one.i like to start from scratch dont want somebodys turn key..seems cheating to me.hehe.thanks bros for some sound advice.....keep u posted on the outcome......