astroracer , the car had 3.73 gears, a turbo 350 with a shift kit, line lock, electric fuel pump, and will have a good enough stall. And I didn't say I wanted a mid range power cam. I said I wanted a cam with power all through the power band-meaning from idle to whatever rpm. And jerry clayton, I like your idea but I don't hae funds to go ls or anything like that requiring lots of computer work. Sticking to a sbc with carb. Firebird clone, ok thanks for telling me. I'll look for lower lift. But I like noisy timing gears, my dad has them on his built 289. Sounds amazing. But about the vortec engines, I will not be going to a engine that is fuel injected, or computer controlled. Thanks for all the input, appreciated