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    Quote Originally Posted by constantinou220 View Post
    So after spinning the oil from the distributor port I installed the distributor. placed it in at tdc facing piston #1.
    There are 720 degrees in one complete cycle, so each piston comes to TDC twice in each cycle. You have to make sure that you are phasing the rotor with the piston on the compression stroke, not the overlap period. Remove all spark plugs. Put a socket and breaker bar on the harmonic damper retaining bolt head and turn the motor clockwise manually while one of your buddies holds his thumb over the #1 spark plug hole. When your buddy feels pressure on his thumb, the piston is coming up on the compression stroke. Continue turning the crank slowly, while watching the harmonic damper TDC groove and lining it up with TDC on the timing tab which is on the front cover. STOP. Install the dizzy so that the rotor is pointing to 5:30 O'Clock as you look at the motor from above. Install the dizzy body leaving plenty of room for the vacuum can to miss the intake manifold and the firewall rotationally as you turn the dizzy back and forth to adjust the timing once you get the motor running. Install the dizzy cap and run your first wire from that 5:30 position to the #1 spark plug. Now, run the remainder of wires clockwise around the cap according to the firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2.

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinou220 View Post
    I turned it over and few times without the plugs in to seat the new rings.
    Not a good idea. The cam and lifters are lubed from oil being thrown off the skirts of the pistons and from splash in the oil pan, which both require considerable engine speed over simply being turned over with the starter. You may have screwed the pooch already by galling the lifter crowns from lack of lube. Maybe, maybe not, how's your luck?

    Quote Originally Posted by constantinou220 View Post
    After I put the plugs in it almost fired but it struggled for a couple rotations than it was dead in the water. Smoke from thr starter. Do I need a high torque starter because of the oversized pistons?? More compression so that would make sense. Or am I missing something? Any little bit of help would be greatly appreciated.
    The electrical system could be struggling due to lack of sufficient grounds, which happens often when a motor is dropped into a chassis after a rebuild, we forget to re-install the grounds. Charge the battery, install new battery cables (Use good quality cables, not some fosdick budget items) and install new ground cables from the engine block to the body and from the body to the frame. As I often say, a car cannot have too many grounds. Grind down to bare metal to install your ground cables, then smother the connections with RTV to prevent corrosion.

    Here's some reading for you.....
    http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ips_and_tricks
    http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...stment_SBC/BBC
    http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...op_dead_center

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    Last edited by techinspector1; 06-11-2015 at 11:21 AM.
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