C'mon Pat, not trying to get under your skin or be a Jackass of any kind. I'm simply trying to understand what you're saying, and depending on how I break things up it says two very different things. Did you intend to say Eagle cranks are hard to beat, or did you intend to say that it's hard to beat Scat?? Simple question, and your answer might help someone make a decision. I'll just quit trying to understand your coded posts from now on.