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    well i am just fine . msd keep plugs kleen . all i saying is less it has a soild block it can run on the street heat is a deal so you set them up just like at the track i can start another thread of the list of all the race and street /race engine so we can move this if you like you did say. guys you do know the short comings of driving a race engine on the street? i not mad i keep my fingers off the key board next time
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    Seems like a lot of bruhaha over an engine, car and drivetrain that has yet to be built.

    My only advice is to make a plan, stick to it and quit designing by committee - a camel is really a horse that was designed by committee.

    You're worried about fouling plugs??? Jesus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojh View Post
    Seems like a lot of bruhaha over an engine, car and drivetrain that has yet to be built.

    My only advice is to make a plan, stick to it and quit designing by committee - a camel is really a horse that was designed by committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    When you have friends you trust who are more knowledgable on a subject, you're a fool not to ask their advice......
    I agree, and they are very knowledgable. I was just having some fun, stirring the pot so to speak.
    So many different combinations have been pondered, i believe the latest has the cam in stock location and 6.125 aluminum rods - i don't think all that stuff will fit. Even with a 6" rod, stock location and somewhere around .720 or 30 lift cam and a lot of centerline you be bumping into things wouldn't you?
    Just talking theoretical here, i probably read that somewhere in a magazine.

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    rod length has nothing to do with what it bumps into--but stroke and the profile of the lower/big end and bolts do-----

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    rod length has nothing to do with what it bumps into--but stroke and the profile of the lower/big end and bolts do-----
    Seems i had a 6" rod sbc that bumped into the cam about midway in the beam, C&A 100's i believe. With the 5.7 C&A rod it'd clear. You're right about bumping into the bolts. I think Crower changed the centerline or something on the cam to get some clearance at the beam (wish i had that original cam, it didn't have any space between the lobes - very sexy looking).
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    it wasn't the rod length that caused it to bump--

    Those cams they made like that were very small basecircle--they ground them all the way to to core diameter but of course they could only do it for rollers

    Saw and talked to Dave Crower couple of weeks ago at Indy show, had a few shared memories----

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    Did somebody say "make a plan and stick to it?" C'mon, hot rodders don't operate that way!
    It's more like make a plan and try to have some miniscule elements of your original plan in the finished product. Or maybe that's just me....

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    PLAN????? of course---Dave, what do you want for valve covers????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojh View Post
    I agree, and they are very knowledgable. I was just having some fun, stirring the pot so to speak.
    So many different combinations have been pondered, i believe the latest has the cam in stock location and 6.125 aluminum rods - i don't think all that stuff will fit. Even with a 6" rod, stock location and somewhere around .720 or 30 lift cam and a lot of centerline you be bumping into things wouldn't you?
    Just talking theoretical here, i probably read that somewhere in a magazine.
    it should fit with a 3.200 stroke and a 1.880 honda or 2.000 rod bearing if not thats what they make a mill for and i would mock it up first any ways , like jerry said they hit on the rod side FORK END were the bolts are not the beam .CROWER did some one SAY CROWER well ok here mine .wish i had the 100.00 dollars all 8 cost me. hey dave i better not say any thing about this street engine 4.610 bore 5.500 crank .TITanium rods 800 lift cam
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    Now, thats a set of rods...$100 for all 8? are they Crower? I recall he had some premium rods...Grand nationals? is that right? I believe they called them grand nationals, i had a set of them and never used 'em - they were beautiful, just beautiful. Very expensive, if i recall right.
    the above look like they're about 7 1/2", i don't think they're in a flattie so the deck must be quite aways above the water inlet if i am thinking right. Just something special about the look of professional hardware.

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    Being we're into sharing pics and all, and not straying too far off subject, if you excuse the shop dust, heres a pic of my sbc
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojh View Post
    Now, thats a set of rods...$100 for all 8? are they Crower? I recall he had some premium rods...Grand nationals? is that right? I believe they called them grand nationals, i had a set of them and never used 'em - they were beautiful, just beautiful. Very expensive, if i recall right.
    the above look like they're about 7 1/2", i don't think they're in a flattie so the deck must be quite aways above the water inlet if i am thinking right. Just something special about the look of professional hardware.
    No there titanium not steel and there is no name they call them other then CROWER top of the line and very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ they are 7.670 .for a 11.500 donovan big chief street engine . lets say i have more then i wish i had in to them after getting them re sprayed and new bolts.... old nova hey i had a gto 66 with some engine set back to
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    it wasn't the rod length that caused it to bump--

    Those cams they made like that were very small basecircle--they ground them all the way to to core diameter but of course they could only do it for rollers

    Saw and talked to Dave Crower couple of weeks ago at Indy show, had a few shared memories----
    Jerry-was that the drag racers auction at Indy??.
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    it was at the performance industry show---week before the PRI show in Florida

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