the doug thorleys are great headers, i've got a set on my mustang and love em...they used to be sold just as Doug's Headers but he went through a nasty divorce and his wife got the rights to his buisness so he had to start over again with a new name.... but they're still just as good if not better than the old ones ....they aren't the cheapest headers out there though... i believe i paid $400 for nickel plated and ceramic coated and thats with being a buddy of Ed Hansen (personal friend of Doug Thorley and also an exhaust engineer with a nice shop)