Sorry to bug you again Pat, or anyone who has ideas but I'm still having a knocking I can't figure out with my 402. I've checked out most everything we've discussed plus I've replaced a couple of valve springs that were under spec (but not by much). The timing chain has about 4 degrees of slop but I was thinking of checking it anyway. Also I was going to check if the cam has a retainer plate that could be getting loose. My thoughts are at the point of pulling the motor and tearing it down but until I find work I just can't afford to do it. My brothers a mechanic and mentioned the possibility of a stuck wrist pin, but wouldn't the knock be all the time? Help, I'm losing it.