Thread: Manual or Automatic tranny
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08-23-2003 10:42 AM #1
Manual or Automatic tranny
I know it's also a matter of taste, but can anyone point some "technical advantages" of using one or another??
As we don't use automatic transmissions here, I don't know how they work. Can somebody tell me how they work (or any link, not how stuff works, please ), mainly the torque converter, and if it's possible to turn an auto tranny into a sequential shift, like modern ones.
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08-23-2003 07:49 PM #2
Used to be all cars were stick shift, auto's arriving in the 1950s.
Basically, a torqe converter bolts to the engine flywheel where a clutch would go. It has vanes in it like a turbo. the spinning engine spins the vanes moving the fluid. also inside the torque converter are other vanes that are attached to the trans input shaft - as the revs come up the engine driven vanes move the fluid and that pushes the trans shaft vanes into moving. That'll get you 1 gear and the ability to stop in 'drive'.
For more gears, there are many more parts, clutches (like on a motorcycle) and planetoary gears, pressure regulators, etc. I am not an expert on teh insides of these things!
Older chechanical trannies shifted when pressure of the fluid reached certain points, also either vacuum from the engine, kick down linkages or on 80s GMs, a Throttle valve cable would control shift points. Starting in the late 80s, electronically shifted transmissions appeard, where the computer activates a solenoid valve in the trans to shift gears.
The manual automatics use those electronic solenoids to allow 'manual' shifting. The newer european cars are now using manual transmissions with electronically actuated clucthes to behave like real automatic transmissions.
Which is better? Depends... automatics have come so far that they are probably the better choice in most situations. With lock up torque converters and electronically controlled shifts the efficiency is as good or better than a manual, and autos shift quicker when drag racing, and certainly more consistently, and can be built to take 1000 HP.
For more info seach for the TCI and B&M websites. Also, Car Craft magazine this month has a couple of articles on torque converters and Gm's 700R4 trannie.Chris
Only the dead fish go with the flow.
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08-25-2003 07:46 AM #3
Thanks to both of you for your replies.
what means that the torque converter "stalls" at X RPM? I mean, how does it affect horsepower delivered to the wheels?
Welcome to CHR. I think that you need to hook up your vacuum advance. At part throttle when cruising you have less air and fuel in each cylinder, and the air-fuel mixture is not as densely packed...
MSD 8360 distributor vacuum advance