There won't be that much 1/4 used, just the pieces around the 2x4 box. Should have been clearer on the engine set back, I can put the #1 plug a inch or better behind the spindle centerline without rebuilding the firewall. With the nova clip I had on there, the engine mounts set a little behind the crossmember. I could do the major set back deal, I just don't really like them back that far. Engine heat, screwed up dash and all the things mentioned above don't appeal to me. I don't like them a mile in the air either, at a rod run Sat there was a 55 chev that set perfect, a Henry J that was 4 ft in the air. I looked at the 55 about 10 times. I should have took pics but I was feeling like crap and didn't think. These damn doctors don't find out something soon, I won't be building anything.